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Old 10-02-2008, 06:21 PM   #1
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Joe Biden v. Sarah Palin, or how Oct. 2nd brought the Lols

Unless both candidates behave, this is gonna be one of the more fun debates of the year.

On one hand you have Joe Biden, who puts his foot in his mouth on a regular basis. Be it his proclamation that FDR addressed the nation on TV in the 1920s, or openly admitting that Hillary Clinton would have been a better VP pick than him, Joe Biden majors in funneh. He's a gaffe machine, but he's a lovable one.

And on the other hand you've got Sarah Palin; equally lovable, not so much experience, but she can hunt you down from the sky. Sure she doesn't know what the Bush doctrine is, and doesn't know any court cases outside Roe v Wade, but she's got breasts. And she's a barracuda! Look it up.

So what are you guys expecting tonight? Palin's been cramming for the last week, and tapes of her old governor debates show she's got chops, so do you think she'll end up with a good showing? If not, what do you think is gonna happen to the McCain campaign as a whole? As for Joe Biden, do you think he'll behave? Tell me your expectations, and then tell me who impressed you more tonight (after the debate obviously).
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:27 PM   #2
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Sneak peak at the possibilities the night may have in store for us:

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Old 10-02-2008, 07:03 PM   #3
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I don't think Biden will be able to help himself. Something Palin says will set him off, I think. I'll go ahead and predict that Biden is going to win this debate, hands down.
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Old 10-02-2008, 07:11 PM   #4
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We should turn it into a drinking game..
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Old 10-02-2008, 07:12 PM   #5
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I'm going to have to agree with Smokey. She'll likely bear some teeth tonight to stave off the gotcha question holes she has fallen into lately. I know I'm in the minority at this site, but I could give a crap if a small population state governor isn't familiar with supreme court constitutional law interpretations, but she flubbed that badly regardless.

I think this is going to get quite interesting during parts of the night.
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Old 10-02-2008, 08:02 PM   #6
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The bar is so low for Palin at this point that all she has to do is not suck and she'll come out at least even. Also, no matter what anybody says, there are just weird things about the male-female dynamic and Biden will have to really watch his step else "aggressive" will come off as "attacking", and no matter how warranted it might be, the public will most likely interpret that as a negative. Palin could misstep as well, but the one thing (and possibly only thing) she's actually good at is toeing the line between toughness and femininity.

I care what she knows about the SC given that, if she actually ends up stepping up to the plate, SC nominations would be squarely in her hands. There are buttoads of justices waiting to retire.
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Old 10-02-2008, 08:18 PM   #7
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If I were Biden--here's what I would do. Let her have the first 30 minutes. Let her show some teeth and expose herself as a grade-A sawtooth barracuda. I know women of her type. They live all around these parts. They can only play the "look at me, aren't I an innocent little person" routine for so long before getting all wound up and tearing into you. Play it fair and even and tear into her only after she shows her true colors. We all know McCain is looking to play the sexism card.

But it doesn't matter in the long run. I still think McCain is going to win this, no matter how far ahead Obama is in the polls. Al Quida will pull something, or whatever the October surprise is, then everybody will shift to McCain and regret it later. Americans are a predictable lot.
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It should be noted that the moderator for tonight has a pro-Obama book that's s'posed to come out on inauguration day.

I wonder how fair this'll turn out.
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:00 PM   #9
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I don't know why so many Obama supporters are pessimistic about his chances. If I was a betting girl, I'd easily put my money on Obama, hands down.
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:28 PM   #10
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Am I the only one that thinks Palin is completely tanking right now. I kinda of feel sorry for her.
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:35 PM   #11
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Biden's running circles around her. I hate half the **** he's saying but he's much better at articulating his position, not to mention Palin's redundant and her argument often circular ("No I do not think it will be pleasing because the government is not pleasing and if the government is not pleasing then I do not think people will be pleased since it is not pleasing.")

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Old 10-02-2008, 09:44 PM   #12
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Yeah I don't agree with some of what Biden is saying either. Not all of his answers are completely truthful but he answers the questions at least for the most part. Palin just flat out refuses to answer some of the questions and seems to be going back to set talking points.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:08 PM   #13
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Neither of them are saying anything new...just like the last debate. They're sticking to their platforms pretty well. I think Palin's doing pretty well. She hasn't tripped up at all and Biden hasn't said anything off the wall crazy yet (lots of heavy sighs though)...which is dissappointing to me. I was hoping to be entertained by lots of goofiness...ahh, there's still time!
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:21 PM   #14
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That folksy talk and all the hockey/soccer mom references are REEEEEEEALLY getting on my nerves. I swear to God, this woman is Canadian. "Oh, there you go again, Joe. Doggone it..." I was just waiting for her to throw in that "eh".

With that said, Biden is definitely winning this debate. I also find it interesting that she keeps jumping on Biden about straight talk when she hasn't answered a damn question. Finally, she's just as ignorant (I wouldn't call her stupid...yet) as McCain is concerning the leadership of Iran. I'm glad Biden actually came out and showed everyone just how ignorant she is. The sad part is that she went right back and used Achmedinajad as an example of leaders we shouldn't meet with, along with Kim Jong Il and Raul Castro, AFTER Biden pointed out who really rules Iran.

Oh yeah. Palin and McCain are a team, alright. I don't think "maverick" is the word that fits, though.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:25 PM   #15
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Biden just won. The whole bit about his family + FINALLY calling out the maverick bull**** -- he might as well conclude with "put that in your pipe and smoke it."
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