So which do you feel is the better one now, historically whatever. Here's my take.
Historically speaking for me it has been Final Fantasy as it was my first console RPG, Dragon Warrior while free from NP mag I didn't get well into nearly the life of the SNES. To me FF has been more of the quicker game until the total stray from what FF was meant to be on the 7th release. The 'N' based FF titles have been great games, well crafted stories, smarter battle engines, and they were good 20-40 hour romps. Dragon Quest(Warrior) was very short on the 1st as I won it from my best friend as he bet me I couldn't do it in one afternoon (which I did in like 5hours or so.) Each DQ/W game after though has gone into the 40+ area pushing up into 100hours which I find huge distaste with because the DQ system never really changes and I personally can't focus on a game that long. I lose interest due to forgetting what happened dozens of hours earlier making me think 'Why did I bother?' DQ though these days while still long not all of it by far is required, the system is more fun because it's traditional, and the stories have definitely improved. FF though has strayed into boy band looking characters, whiny stories, overkill hours, very cryptic lame boss fights requiring exact skills and usage or you're hosed which is very bad, a disgusting buzzkill.
To me Square lost their way with FF and their Enix half has stayed on target. FF4 was fairly ruined on the DS with cryptic boss fights requiring exact gear and spells or you're dead, even some random thing in a zone now can off you in 2 hits that way which is disgusting. DQ though has always had the same level of challenge that ramps up but nothing outrageous and stupid, nor has it required you to use exact spells 2, 5, and 8 in your list every turn or you die no matter what and that I appreciate.
Historically FF was great, but these days the DQ franchise is where it's at now for honest good gameplay.
Ooooh that's a toughy, especially from the historical perspective for me. Dragon Warrior 1 and 2 and Phantasy Star 1 and 2 were the only RPGs that I played and enjoyed back in my youth. I did not play, care for, or even pay attention to the FF series until X-2 came out and I bought it. And Dragon Quest 8 was my favorite RPG of the last generation, so even though I liked FF9 better as a video game I'm gonna have to say DQ if you take into consideration both past and present.
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I've never played any of the DQ titles, but from what I have seen of them, I still think FF is the better series. That may change once I give some of the DQ titles a play or two, but for now my opinion is that FF>DQ.
i've given dragon quest the chance and i still believe Final Fantasy are much better. Dragon Quest 7 was terrible. it takes 3 hours to get into and the first 3 hours will make sure you don't get into it. Final Fantasy has been truly hit or miss since 7, though i believe that 8 was superior even with it's flaws (i.e. junction system). 9 is another game that people love to talk about, but for me the only thing that game had going was the battle system. FFX was a terrible game for the most part i think. especially with the ways enemies were set up. tanooki you talk about the boss fights and there being a specific way to fight them or you're dead. in FFX each area's enemies had to be killed by a specific person.. Flyers were only killed by wakka or lulu.. Tidus killed the regular enemies.. Auron took out the stronger ones.. every area was the same 3 types of enemies. FFX-2 was brilliant with it's battle system, particularly the speed and dress spheres. harkoning back to days of job classes in Final Fantasy Tactics.
over all, no Dragon Quest games are that memorable. there all really bland with basic battle systems that don't really evolve from each iteration before it. DQ 8 was very bland from what i've played and have seen others play. epic there are so many more rpgs from last generation that stand above DQ8.
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I had heard complaints about DQ7 but not of 8 so I dunno as that one just seemed to get praise. I've only messed with 1-3 and just missed out on 4 until now which I'll nab next week. I've wanted a shot at 5 and 6, and while I know a local guy who can erase an existing SNES game and put it on there, I knew the DS stuff was coming so I ignored it waiting a bit longer. The only complaints I know of that DQ ever legitimately gets is that the games go on a bit long, the battle engine mostly stays the same (but that can be a plus easily too), and in general they require a bit more grinding but not much more than FF titles. DQ7 I understood to be an exception to that rule as it did some weird stuff like virion said with the three hours (too slow to get into) of going nowhere and getting you bored at the same time.
Virion - NONE of those games were even close to Dragon Quest 8. That game had the best voice acting in eons, great characters, deep storyline and deep gameplay allowing you to create weapons or buy them at a high price. Turn-based battle systems are still the best and this one was flawless and had very creative enemies to go with it. Plus it had a very good soundtrack to boot.
Again, Dragon Quest 8 was not only my favorite RPG of last gen, but also the best RPG of any console. Thank you for coming now don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
epic have you played devil summoner or the digital devil sagas?.. also steambot chronicles is light years ahead in being fun than dragon quest 8 was. now i might agree that not all of those titles i listed were way better.. but all of them are on par with DQ8. plus i omitted alot of the more known titles such as final fantasy.
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I hate to do this to you because well I think FF FF excluded has been fairly god awful since the 6th, but the last gen competition from the FF camp, that 10 with the boyband looks, ok story, but really crap sphere system got it's ass kissed more by the stronger American leaning FF fanboy pool as DQ is a bigger wonder overseas.
FF10 ranked a bit higher overall looking at gamerankings.com's averages, but just very marginally. I suppose it could be a factor that FF10 had a few less reviews though than DQ8 did, but it's also interesting that FF10 only ranked higher if you check the meat of it with a large swath of 100% ratings which had a lot of goo-goo ga ga crap over the visuals and spoken in game text. I'm sorry but to me that's not much of an accomplishment over gameplay, story, and general mechanics.
I played Nocture and Digital Devil Saga both. Original games but also a bit weird and gross. They don't have the level of "fun" that DQ8 had. I wouldn't make such a stand if I didn't believe that game was the complete package. The great voice acting made for some hilarious parts in DQ. Also, I think it's better than any of the FFs too, as most here will agree that the last proper FF was FF9. X-2 was good but not like DQ.
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