What do you guys think about acid? I did that a few times and the first time it was pretty fun. I saw some **** I would have never imagined in a normal state of mind. The second time was about as good. The third time I was screaming the whole night. Oh god, it was like a freaking nightmare. I never did it again after that. Why does it have such varied affects on people? I never quite understood that.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to find a definitive study on the effects of LSD, and I've spent quite a bit of time looking for one. I would assume the different trips people experience has something to do with the fact no one's brain has the exact same chemical composition, unless I'm mistaken, I'm pretty sure I wasn't asleep during that portion of Psychology. I doubt you get a very accurate dosage from black market LSD, which is obviously the only kind in America, so that would explain the differences for you personally. I've also heard first hand accounts from friends who claim lighting, what room you're in, and how your day has gone (whether you're happy, sad, stressed, angry, whatever) can make a huge difference.
I've personally never experimented with it and I don't plan to. Even though I can't find a study that I absolutely trust that condemns it I've heard and read reports that indicate it may cause permanent damage to the brain. It ends up being worse for some people than others, but my brain is one thing I won't risk so that automatically rules it out. I'd also be really concerned with, as I mentioned before, the fact you really can't trust any acid you pick up on the street. An extremely powerful hallucinogen like that is a lot more likely to have problems than other stuff like weed. Since it's a man-made chemical, as opposed to a plant, you can't have "natural" acid so it's a total crap shoot every time. I wouldn't want to take a couple hits and never fully recover. Even if that's just a slight risk it's too much for me to take.
Exactly. I don't think that will happen to many people, and obviously Barrett abused LSD (don't know about Erickson) rather than taking it in moderation, but stories like that bother me a lot. I don't think I'd go nuts or anything, but even if it caused just 1% of that it would be too much to sacrifice.
^Yep, they even had to give him shock therapy and Thorazine treatments every day. The dude is a certifiable mess. This article should give you a good idea of what happened.
I'm not looking to jump into this thread to antagonise anyone or anything, but I will ask this: why do people argue in favour of drugs like marijuana and against ones like acid because the former is 'natural'? That premise isn't even remotely persuasive to me; there are plenty of very dangerous toxins in nature.
I don't know how common it is, but LSD can have permanent detrimental effects to your brain. I remember one of my professors talking about how she and her friend went to a party in college and someone spiked her friend's drink with LSD. She had a really bad reaction to it and has had serious memory problems every since.
A firend of mine used to take a fair bit of acid, and he is paying for it now. He has occacional acid flashbacks and he has some memory and motor impairment.
Weed isnt as natural as some think. Most weed is hydroponically grown, and it soaks up a lot of the chemicals that it is grown in. I was reading an article abot someone who was a chronic hydro user who sweated out all the different chemicals when he went thorugh rehab.
I have on occasion smoked weed, but I have found nothing special to do with it. I still prefer beer and bourbon.
What I have heard about LSD is that it really depends on what sort of mood you are in and your mind set. I have heard that if you are in a negative frame of mind, then you are going to have a bad trip. Same as if you are in a ****** mood.
And again, I do not have any desire to try out LSD, or any other drugs. Even cigarettes don't agree with me. As I only smoke when I am (very) drunk, I find it makes me light headed, and even then only briefly.
I know of too many people that have tried various drugs and have had many negative reactions to them to try any of them myself.
lsd is extremely hard to find in america now anyways.
The decline in prevalence of LSD is correlated with the arrest of two chemists, William Leonard Pickard, a Harvard-educated organic chemist, and Clyde Apperson. According to DEA reports, black market LSD availability dropped by 95% after the two were arrested in 2000. These arrests were a result of one of the largest LSD manufacturing raids in DEA history.[81] Pickard was an alleged member of the Brotherhood of Eternal Love group that produced and sold LSD in California during the late 1960s and early 1970s. It is believed he had links to other "cooks" associated with this group — an original source of the drug back in the 1960s — and his arrest may have forced other operations to cease production, leading to the large decline in street availability. The DEA claims that these two individuals were responsible for supplying a third of the LSD in the United States and maybe the world.
In November of 2003, Pickard was sentenced to life imprisonment without parole, and Apperson was sentenced to 30 years imprisonment without parole, after being convicted in Federal Court of running a large scale LSD manufacturing operation out of several clandestine laboratories, including a former missile silo near Wamego, Kansas.
it is so incredibly hard to find acid now.. the last time i did it was in 2001.. in 2005 i took about 40 hits and it did nothing. if you find acid now it is so weak and dilluted. if you want something similiar to acid now the only thing you really have is mushrooms or pure mdma (x)..
anyone smoke salvia divinorum?.. i've tried that a couple of times and to really no effect.
the only drugs i **** around with today are xanax and seroquel. xanax makes me feel alot better and takes away all anxiety, which is good. also if you smoke weed or drink and take xanax it completely intensifies it.
the only drug i really have a problem with, and don't want and won't recommend others do, is meth. that is the worst effing drug ever.
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Rensa, using acid and cannabis have very different consequences both in the short run and long term. It's not simply because one is "normal", it's because one is comparable to alcohol in its effects while the other has been proven (I'll admit, by anecdotal evidence but it's a mountain of these stories) to cause serious harm if you happen to be that unlucky individual. I personally don't use any substances anymore (other than prescribed medicine if I ever needed it) but I have tried cannabis and will never touch LSD, I actually put a lot of research into that decision and it didn't happen by chance. I'm about to head to class but when I get back I'll try to find an article explaining the difference.
Edit: Just did a quick search. As I said before I haven't found what I'd consider an entirely reputable research article on LSD, but this one appears to be fairly balanced, even though you could make a case for possible bias based on the site it's hosted on.
"Pathological mental conditions may be intensified by Delysid. Particular caution is necessary in subjects with a suicidal tendency and in those cases where a psychotic development appears imminent. The psycho-affective lability and the tendency to commit impulsive acts may occasionally last for some days."
That basically sums up my decision not to mess with it. Even though such a reaction is not guaranteed the fact that it's even possible worries me. Stories of people like Barrett and Erickson being seriously traumatized by their experiences with the drug are uncommon but not unheard of, it's enough to make me consider acid considerably more dangerous than other substances such as alcohol and cannabis.
The only drug I ever partake in is alcohol, and even then, in doses that are harmless to the body, and because its the only drug that gets completely washed out of your system.
Everything else (including nicotine) is for ****ing idiots, because they ALL linger in the body's system for long periods of time. Anyone who does these drugs really needs to OD on their respective poisons as soon as possible, therefore doing the world a favour.
But thats coming from someone who has seen first hand the effects drugs has on the users, their families, their children, their friends, etc. So lash out all you want, I base my opinions on cold, hard experience and openly invite all users to go **** themselves.
Note: My experience was not from BEING a user, but from several different family members who were.
I've only used cocaine and alcohol. So while I hardly endorse it, it would be hypocritical of me to say they're wrong and bad and to stay away from them.
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