The HD Revolution. Conspiracy?

VHS to DVD is a completely different story. Blu-Ray, based on what I've heard, only offers minimal improvements over DVD. That's why I'm reluctant to get behind Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, because at this point it seems like little more than forced change from corporations out to make a quick buck by making everybody re-buy all of their movies.

EDIT : Let's begin from here. Since a lot of the posts before still held with the original topic. - HGW XX/7

[HGW XX/7]

Originally Posted by ReaganYouth

VHS to DVD is a completely different story. Blu-Ray, based on what I've heard, only offers minimal improvements over DVD. That's why I'm reluctant to get behind Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, because at this point it seems like little more than forced change from corporations out to make a quick buck by making everybody re-buy all of their movies.

The boost from DVD to HD-DVD/Blu-Ray is definitely noticeable, and will become a standard. Though I believe downloaded movies will be more popular by the time it's standard.

1080P HD Movies >>>>>>>>>>>>>DVD Movies. Casino Royale on Blu-Ray is the most impressive thing I've seen, and it's the only one I've seen in 1080P.

Every other HD movie I've seen was 720P, which is still better than DVD.

But unlike VHS to DVD, I can't justify making the switch until they stop producing DVD movies/players. I'm not a big fan of the idea of constantly re-buying things I already have.

[Monkeylord]

DVD is double the resolution of VHS - the main revolution was the menu system, extras, surround sound and ease of use. Not having to rewind, being able to instantly jump to a scene and (if your DVD player supported the feature) being able to store cue points to instantly jump to unchaptered portions of a movie.

HD-DVD/Bluray is 4 times the resoultion and up to 7.1 (or is it 8.1?) surround sound. The difference even at 720p (only about double the resolution of DVD) is phenominal and instantly noticable.

No-one is forced to rebuy anything due to the added bonus of competant upscaling software included in all HD-DVD and Bluray drives so if anyone rebuys a movie it's because they want to.


Seriously, find somewhere with a properly calibrated HDTV (hell, even the stores with the retina burning settings on their display HDTV's would do the trick) and actually get someone to display some HD content to you. Most places have a DVD running as a sampler, demand actual HD content. You can't fail to see the iimprovment offered, seriously!

Originally Posted by Monkeylord

DVD is double the resolution of VHS - the main revolution was the menu system, extras, surround sound and ease of use. Not having to rewind, being able to instantly jump to a scene and (if your DVD player supported the feature) being able to store cue points to instantly jump to unchaptered portions of a movie.

HD-DVD/Bluray is 4 times the resoultion and up to 7.1 (or is it 8.1?) surround sound. The difference even at 720p (only about double the resolution of DVD) is phenominal and instantly noticable.

No-one is forced to rebuy anything due to the added bonus of competant upscaling software included in all HD-DVD and Bluray drives so if anyone rebuys a movie it's because they want to.


Seriously, find somewhere with a properly calibrated HDTV (hell, even the stores with the retina burning settings on their display HDTV's would do the trick) and actually get someone to display some HD content to you. Most places have a DVD running as a sampler, demand actual HD content. You can't fail to see the iimprovment offered, seriously!

Oh, so I don't have to re-buy my movies after all?

That changes things, then.

[HGW XX/7]

Originally Posted by ReaganYouth

Oh, so I don't have to re-buy my movies after all?

That changes things, then.

Make sure the player supports upscaling.

PS3's and XBOX 360 HD-DVD Add-Ons support upscaling if you use HDMI.

[Rensa]

It's funny... I used to run my consoles on a tiny little 576i tube with composite cables, and I was happy. When my family picked up a new 1080p LCD telly, though, I really noticed the blurring on my Wii. Switched to composite 480p and it looks gorgeous; I wouldn't want to use composite on it anymore. But I'd still be happy to play on the tiny telly if I had to.

I'm all for developers spending effort on visuals, but I could never agree to an idea like a person not being a real gamer if they didn't play on an HD set or sommat.

[Tanooki]

Wasn't this about gaming elists behavior problems and entitlement issues? If I were a mod I'd break those posts off into a new thread as it's a good discussion of its own.

[Lizzaroni]

Originally Posted by ReaganYouth

And I would appreciate it if you guys would stop talking to me like I'm a close-minded fanboy, because I'm not. K?

I would appreciate it if you stopped taking everything as an attack.

Originally Posted by Lizzaroni

I would appreciate it if you stopped taking everything as an attack.

It's more the fact that you brought up the Wii and Nintendo's philosophy when my argument had nothing to do with it.

[MR EPIC]

HGW - Casino Royale was my first Blu-Ray disc and both the movie and quality are made of nothing but WIN.

Now since my 1080p set was broken I'm back playing games on my JVC I Art, which for an SDTV isn't bad, and even though I've been used to HD for nearly 10 years now I'm not crying about having to go back to DVDs and SD gaming for a while.

Reagan - I'm not convinced that Liz was talking to you directly with that post you keep bringing up. I could be wrong but I thought it was a direct response to Jeff's post about not forcing the HD standard on people.

No, I'm pretty sure it was directed at me.

[MAX]

I'd be hesitant to say that Bluray is the standard. DVD still outsells Bluray by a wide margin, if I'm not mistaken.

[Smokey]

Agreed, but the time when it will be standard isn't far off.

[Smokey]

Hey, where's my post, dammit?

I love how this thread keeps branching off and new threads are made for it.