How could there be? How would he have created himself? The only god I see is real is Buddha because he was actually a real person waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back from what I have learned in social studies class. Like in 4 thousand some BC (why was Jesus Christ so important? I exist, I should be in a gold mine of cash) Bible=BlahBlahBlah Snooze. That's why I don't go to church.
Yeah, so I want to know do you believe in god? Answer my poll. I am forcing you to. You cant deny it. You will answer my poll.
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it is a little narrow-minded to tell everyone else that god is not real just because you believe so. and supposedly god didnt create himself, he just "always was". It makes more sense than "BOOM! everything is created". And Jesus Christ was an important historical figure as well, they just dont teach about it in school as much because of the seperation of church and state. Buddha was just some prince, he didn't perform miracles, so how can he be god?
it is a little narrow-minded to tell everyone else that god is not real just because you believe so. and supposedly god didnt create himself, he just "always was". It makes more sense than "BOOM! everything is created". And Jesus Christ was an important historical figure as well, they just dont teach about it in school as much because of the seperation of church and state. Buddha was just some prince, he didn't perform miracles, so how can he be god?
God isn't real, there's no evidence supporting his existance. Period. I'm sorry, but God always being there making more sense than the universe always just having been there? RE - TAR - DED. Where did God come from? At least we know the universe exists.
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you just dont know though. you dont. you cant be completely positive. you cant say that and completely know. how do you know? you might as well believe because its not gonna hurt, but it could hurt not believing thats all Im saying. theres no proof god doesnt exist, its just one of those things. you just dont know. it IS a matter of faith and you cant really prove it, you just believe.
you just dont know though. you dont. you cant be completely positive. you cant say that and completely know. how do you know? you might as well believe because its not gonna hurt, but it could hurt not believing thats all Im saying. theres no proof god doesnt exist, its just one of those things. you just dont know. it IS a matter of faith and you cant really prove it, you just believe.
BTW, I do believe.
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One more time people. YOU CAN'T PROVE A NEGATIVE.
Therefore the burden of providing evidence to support his existence, rests on you. The logical principle of parsimony, aka Occam's Razor, demands that you actually provide evidence of god's existence and a testable definition before he can be considered reality. Got one handy?
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^ its not about evidence. its about faith. there is no need to prove it to nonbelievers because they will not believe through evidence. only faith can do that. I will leave you at that. discussion over
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And Jesus Christ was an important historical figure as well, they just dont teach about it in school as much because of the seperation of church and state. Buddha was just some prince, he didn't perform miracles, so how can he be god?
Siddhartha Gautama (1 of the buddahs the most famous one anyway) Gave up everything too be one with his people, while meditating under a bodai tree he found the ultimate balance between life and the universe (enlightenment).
He did'nt have too make up miracles too become famous, he was famous anyway for giving up eternal wealth for his people.
Buddhists do not have a god, nor do they worship one they actully worship spirits as such (gaia etc) the Buddhist like religion with gods is shinto.
it is a little narrow-minded to tell everyone else that god is not real just because you believe so. and supposedly god didnt create himself, he just "always was". It makes more sense than "BOOM! everything is created".
So really the universe could of always been there.
Boom everything is created (is a very narrow look on the big bang its String theroy says its caused by 2 "Membranes" crashing into together and the resulting energy created the universe) makes more sense than some super mega being bigger than everything creates stuff then forgets how too talk.
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What a dumb argument, seriously, why do we keep insisting on arguing over something when everyone knows neither side will ever give? I personally believe there was a creator of the universe, I don't see any reason why not. It's not a bigger leap to think that something created everything and that he has always existed then it is to say everything has existed throughout eternity without need for a creator. You won't find out till your dead anyway, so place your bets and then go on living life. If someone believes in God, I don't see why atheists would feel incredibly compelled to change their minds. That's just being a jerk. And Christians, if the non-believers aren't buying the message then it's their loss anyway (for that perspective), right?
Also, I find Buddha = God to be much harder to swallow then Jesus = God. They were both historical figures though, it is 100% proof-positive both men existed so that argument should already be settled, whether you believe either was better then your average mortal man is totally different.
And as far as God not communicating with humanity and thus not existing, that's kind of silly. If I was the creator of the universe (with my omniscience) I wouldn't talk to these sorry peons either. Heck, I'm a regular person too and I still have trouble sometimes putting up with people. If I didn't have to, and instead just watch them screw up, you'd better believe that's what I'd be doing.
Therefore the burden of providing evidence to support his existence, rests on you. The logical principle of parsimony, aka Occam's Razor, demands that you actually provide evidence of god's existence and a testable definition before he can be considered reality. Got one handy?
I am God.
Ignoring that obviously truthful comment, what if I have spoken to God? Have felt him (in places I shouldn't have)? You wouldn't believe it, right? But that doesn't mean it's not true.
People feel God daily. People have had miracles happen, something that science cannot prove sometimes.
Science doesn't hold all the answers. And just as God couldn't "always be there," neither could whatever created us. So stupid. Religion cannot use "God was always there," but science can use "we're trying to find out what created us." They are exactly the same. Whatever created us had to always be there. Time cannot just begin, can it? Objects cannot just create themselves, can they?
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