Don't you just despise the Star Wars Prequels?

[Professor Go]

If you're like me, you grew up watching the original trilogy. Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Darth Vader, Princess Leia.. you had chemistry between the characters, you had special effects without CGI and more than anything, you had MOVIES WORTH WATCHING.

I'm wondering how many people out there are underwhelmed with these latest batch of Star Wars movies? And now there is a rumor that George Lucas wants to take his original movies, the movies my generation paid for for him to even be ABLE to create the Prequels, and add CGI/new scenes/new voices/new effects so that they coincide with the newest trilogy WITHOUT releasing the original prints on DVD.

I think that's wrong.

Jar Jar Binks is the Devil.

:(

[Rensa]

I actually didn't see the originals until just before Ep. 1, simply b/c I wasn't raised on it (too young).

[Boondock Saint]

i love the originals, and george lucas can bite me. (i wrote a rather long post on WHY in the actual Star Wars thread). if he doesn't release the original versions as well as the special editions, i'm not buying them. it's that simple. there's no need for all the crap he added in, i.e. - greedo shooting first. there's no need for that!

yeah, he sucks, and as i stated before, if he (lucas) f*cks up the next indy flick, i'm going to personally kill him.

oh, i didn't vote on this poll, b/c i liked the two films, i just hated the fact that, unlike the originals, they suck as actual movies...meaning they are bad movies based on what i think good movies are/should be, but i enjoyed them b/c they were star wars, and some parts were exciting/decent.

so yeah, that.

[McBizzel]

I was neither disgusted by them, nor did I think that they were the biggest peices of shit on the planet. I guess I'll pick the nerd one, but there should have been another option.

[Spartacus]

Originally posted by Boondock Saint
oh, i didn't vote on this poll, b/c i liked the two films, i just hated the fact that, unlike the originals, they suck as actual movies...meaning they are bad movies based on what i think good movies are/should be, but i enjoyed them b/c they were star wars, and some parts were exciting/decent.

so yeah, that. Dude, you are so right. I liked em because they were Star Wars, but they really weren't good movies in general.

[King_O.F]

Originally posted by Professor Go
...you had chemistry between the characters, you had special effects without CGI...


just give me some type of chemistry in the next one, please! listen to how they talk in the new movies... they don't even talk normally. and if we can have a single shot without digital effects I'd feel happy. I like GCI and all but it's been WAY over used in these movies.

LOVE star wars.
HATE whatever these last two movies are...

[Messiah]

At least the second film dosen't have the annoying little Anikin, that little guy's voice pissed me off. The prequels have nothing on thier predecessors, its just George looking to cash in on the Star Wars name. I just dont understand how they made them so crap, i mean the originals, classics, i loved them, but then they go and makes the prequels which are utter crap. How he managed to do this is beyond me.

[Jaga]

i hate Star Wars, but i do like the line "Luke I am your father" seems hilarious and often used as a pun...

[Chrono Break]

I think the prequels have been very dissapointing. They have been good, and would have been a lot better if Lucas had made them as their own story or something. Because I feel he has ruined the original trilogy by giving us these mediocre movies. They have been good image wise, music, and that kind of stuff, but they do not fit into the plot of the originals as well as he could have made them to be.

[King_O.F]

the Clone Wars micro-series blew the prequels away. I'd take a movie of that over this crap any day

[Chrono Break]

I heard about those short little Clone Wars segments. Are they any good? What station are they played on? I have not been able to catch any of them. I would like to see them sometime. Maybe they will release them on a DVD or something if they get enough of them.

Some people complain about the acting jobs done in the prequels compared to the original trilogy. I think most of the acters did very well in Episode I and II. There were some very cheesey lines in Episode II though. (That little scene with Anakin and Padme, something about sand being rough and coarse, not like her, made me laugh)

[Spartacus]

http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/clonewars/index.html?A1

All the clone wars eps.

[Jaga]

Star Wars in other shows, like The Simpsons, is always hilarious... you gotta love it.

[Link]

I like the movies, mainly for the fight scenes, but I like the inter-movie novels better.

[McBizzel]

Dude, the people who played Anakin in both movies both sucked. The little kid was just terrible, it made it so hard to watch, but the new Anakin wasn't much better. He wasn't near as bad, but he still wasn't very good.

[ETEP1]

Yeah, they tend to get these really annoying people to play Anakin. I also said in a previous thread that if the princess wasn't so hot, I would personaly slap her and replace her EVER SO DULL ASS with a real actress. Carrie Fisher was hot AND she coulld act with emotion.

[King_O.F]

they just need to get some actors...good actors
and then don't make everything so...sci-fi...y. you know what I'm sayin? in the first movies they were out in space, but there still was plenty of humans walking around and stuff. it made it seem more real, but at the same time it didn't have to much to make you forget they're not on earth. in the new ones everything's a alien...a digital (and therefore clearly fake) one at that.

[Professor Go]

That's not true, that alien looked real!






BWA HA HA HA HAHAAAAAAAAA!

[Chrono Break]

I agree King_O.F. There were way too many special effects in the prequels. Lucas needed to refrain from there being so many aliens and use more real actors. More humans. The Star Wars Universe feels entirely different in the prequels than it did in the original trilogy. Everything is soo.... shiny.... and fancy.... hurts the eyes....

[Boondock Saint]

well, a lot of the shininess is attributed to the vision of the star wars universe before the rise of the empire and the oppression that follows it. the theory is that the fall from grace was signified by the dingy look of the territories in the originals, and the shininess of the new ones.

i still hate the over-abundance of special effects. lucas just has WAY too many toys at his hands now, and he's like a little kid who can't decide which ones he really wants to use from the others, so he uses them all.

rubber rocks...that's all i have to say.

[Spartacus]

Originally posted by Boondock Saint
well, a lot of the shininess is attributed to the vision of the star wars universe before the rise of the empire and the oppression that follows it. the theory is that the fall from grace was signified by the dingy look of the territories in the originals, and the shininess of the new ones. I try to tell people that, they just don't listen (I'm not referring to here).

And I think that they should have some real things in the movie (Every thing is CG). At least they went somewhere real in AOTC. I might be wrong about everything being CG, but I think that's what I heard. Hopefully the rumors of it rocking hard are true. :)

[King_O.F]

I understand things have to look nice and happy before the empire came along but it doesn't mean it's gotta look fake, ya know?

[Boondock Saint]

Originally posted by King_O.F
I understand things have to look nice and happy before the empire came along but it doesn't mean it's gotta look fake, ya know?

yeah, and i agree. i was just stating that THAT'S the reason lucas did it. i would've rather seen real sets as opposed to all CG backgrounds, but whatever...he'll never change.

hey, maybe he'll re-do the scene in raiders of the lost ark where Indy's running away from the giant boulder, but he'll replace the boulder with a CG one, rather than using stuntmen...

[Professor Go]

Or maybe he'll just replace Harrison Ford altogether in Indy 4 with CGI-Indy.

[Boondock Saint]

Originally posted by Professor Go
Or maybe he'll just replace Harrison Ford altogether in Indy 4 with CGI-Indy.

or maybe it'll be claymation, and that'll make it even better!

[King_O.F]

or maybe he'll just make it a cartoon

[Boondock Saint]

Originally posted by King_O.F
or maybe he'll just make it a cartoon

my friend, i think you're onto something with this one.

could you imagine a kick-ass indy anime? it would TOTALLY be f*cking SWEET!

[Donnagh]

All I can say is that I think a lot of people look at the origional trilogy with some damn rosey tints to their glasses. They overlook many of the very same things that they cimplain about in the new films. But come on, get some perspective.
Sure, Greedo shooting before Han was silly, but bloody hell, its like half a second of film. The guy in the green shirt in the Falcon before they take off is in the film for the same amount of time, eyt I don't hear people complaining. Quite the contrary, they stand about and all say "hey, check this out, there's a mistake here, isn't it cool?"
I'm not saying the new films are the same, neither is Lucas, hell before episode one came out he said that the first film isn't really a story, its an introduction a prelude to the next two, and ultimately the next three after that.
But come on, no good actors in the new ones? Ewan McGreggor ain't bad, and Liam Neeson isn't exactly bottom of the barrel.
To end it all, I'll just say, whatever you like, that's cool, differences make life interesting, I like all the films so far. And if you think that Episode IV is all that original, go rent a copy of "Kakushi toride no san akunin" (the Hidden Fortress) directed by Lucas's favorite filmmaker, Akira Kurosawa.

<little known fact:Lucas originally gave the role of Obi-Wan in episode IV to Toshirô Mifune, but had to be pulled because the studio didn't want the star of the film to be Japanese>

[Boondock Saint]

no one said there were NO good actors, just that the anakin actors suck. secondly, the mistakes from the original and greedo shooting first are completely different things, and here's why: when a film's done, that's it. that's the way it is. you don't go in and completely alter the film's events with your fucking director's cuts. you're allowed to add stuff all you want, but whatever it is, should be added from the original script (i.e. - the jabba the hut scene) but not bullshit like greedo shooting first, which lucas said he did to make han solo not look like a bad guy for just shooting him. to my understanding, no one had a qualm about this before, so why change it?

it's the same thing with spielberg editing out guns when the FBI is hunting down ET and giving them walkie-talkies - it simply doesn't need to be done.

so, mistakes are mistakes, but don't alter the events of the story, and that's exactly what greedo shooting first did, it did nothing but that.

and i've seen the hidden fortress, and most people know lucas borrowed liberally from other films, but star wars is really something all its own, and trying to point out where lucas stole from is really stupid...he really hit the jackpot when he made the first trilogy, and that's all there is to it.

[Chrono Break]

Exactly Boondock. If it is not broken, do not fix it. Do not change the events of a film just because you think it looks better that way. Directors cuts should be add ons only. Unless of course you want to use multiple endings or something. But that is still just an add on cause the original is still there. And now there are rumors that Lucas may change the Special Edition Trilogy even more. These are very loose rumors and have not been verified, so do not spaz on me please. But I do believe that maybe you are overreacting just a little bit. Greedo shooting first is not that big of a deal. It isn't vital to the story. It doesn't alter the ending or anything. What is the big deal? Now if they changed it so that Luke Skywalker threw the Emperor down the pit....

[Nintendo Survivor]

The Star Wars movies go like this:

1. Empire Strikes Back
2. Return of the Jedi
3. A New Hope
4. Attack of the Clones
5. Phantom Menace

I honestly hope Lucas redeems himself and makes Episode III extremely well.

[Idol Australian]

ep 1 + 2 are good movies, just not good star wars movies. some of the new things in the originals is good, but why the hell does greedo shoot first? hopefully ep 3 is better than the first 2 and retain some of the feel of the original, being the one to "join" to trilogies.
i love the imperial march!

[King_O.F]

Originally posted by Nathan-GCA
The Star Wars movies go like this:

1. Empire Strikes Back
2. Return of the Jedi
3. A New Hope
4. Attack of the Clones
5. Phantom Menace

I honestly hope Lucas redeems himself and makes Episode III extremely well.


episode III needs to top that list in order for me to say Lucas redeemed himself.

bout the Indy anime. I was making fun of lucas making everything fake but now that you bring that up that WOULD be sweet!
remember we got this plans 50/50, boon.

[Boondock Saint]

hells yes, and if one is ever made, we have to sue like mofos for having the idea first! (and we'll totally win, too...being just two guys on a gaming forum)

greedo shooting first is a big deal because he changed it so han solo wouldn't seem to be 'a bad guy', which i think is a retarded reason to change anything. some director's cuts are worth it, i.e. - ridley scott's 'alien' or peter jackson's extended LotR films, but that's because they originally wanted the footage to be in, but had to change it for either 1)time or 2)the studio.

so, not all director's cuts are bad, but ones that completely alter the film (and mess with the original footage by adding/subtracting elements digitally or otherwise) are bad.

[Professor Go]

WOW, nobody chose awesome.. didn't expect that, maybe people have finally come to realize what an awful bunch of movies they truly are. I mean I'm not even talking about opinion, I mean FACTUALLY these movies smell like dirty undies.