Nintendo "Revolution"

[Link]

I believe that I heard somewhere that Iwata said Nintendo's next console would be something other than a box that would plug into the TV. Well, I just had an idea: What if it isn't a box? What if, instead, it was a handheld, one that could somehow be connected to the TV (maybe wirelessly) to show the action on the big screen, but would also allow for a mobile gaming experience.
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If you will remember back a few months, Nintendo announced that they will focus more on software than hardware in home consoles (I believe they made this comment, correct me if I'm wrong). Combine this with the new rumor that the Nintendo "Revolution" will be able to play GCN games, and you will find that it all fits together. The promised support from hardware companies, such as those working on the new chip (sorry, I don't know the details), could be for this "mobile GCN" I am proposing.
Of course, this is all the speculation of a common gamer, so do take it lightly.

[blablamax]

There is no alternative to Homeconsoles. While in the future the portable market will grow faster than the Homeconsoles market ...They will say depart

[Spartacus]

Nintendo would be giving GB and DS more competition. Thus, it would be fighting against……IT’S SELF. So I don’t think Revolution will be a handheld.

[Link]

GB is already headed towards GCN-quality graphics, so why wouldn't Nintendo cosolidate their consoles? It would save a lot of money on production. And last I knew, GBA was still outselling GCN.

As for DS, this is not a factor. DS is something totally different (two screens, touchscreen technology, voice recognition, WiFi), and thus would not compete directly with this proposed idea, just as it wouldn't compete directly with the GB line.

[koten]

That'll be the dumbest mistake ever. You need consoles, cause nobody wants to spend all their time looking at their hands, not to mention games like Eternal Darkness don't work on handhelds...

Nintendo is going to throw us for a loop whe the N5... woops... Revolution is showcased (i got a fuzzy feeling about E3 TK5

[Kaizoku_Kouji]

Hmm. I'll have to disagree about the handheld "console" idea. I really hope that Nintendo just takes the Cube and improves it, as they are bound to do. I have enormous faith in the new console (though I hope its name changes from "Revoultion")!

[koten]

Dude... what were people calling the GameCube untill about a month before it's release. It was the Dolphin. It won't be too long untill we here the new name for the Revolution soon...

[andre]

yeah, as cool and original as the handheld console sounds, i would personally hate it, as i am sure many others would. i agree with koten that people will need home consoles. they were probably being metaphorical about saying that it just wasn't going to be another box or whatever they said. just another hype technique, although a very savory one at that ;)

[Daniel]

Theres plenty of handheld consoles out/coming out. I have no idea on how the revolution shall be such a revolution but I hope its woth getting excited about. I thought that we would have seen some more stuff on it at E3 and was quite disapointed. If Spaceworld is on this year then they should make it the feature of the show.

[Kirbimirsha]

You know guys they are calling it "revolution" but will it be a revolution in the end ????

Lets not hope that they decieve us through our high expectations.....im not saying that i dont have faith in ninty its just that i can't c how home consoles could progress......i'm thinking connectivity....online and GBE and DS.....

Only time will tell...... but spaceworld seems a bit early raven...they have to present and focus on the DS this year.....either that or big trouble for ninty.

[Daniel]

Originally posted by Kirbimirsha
You know guys they are calling it "revolution" but will it be a revolution in the end ????

Lets not hope that they decieve us through our high expectations.....im not saying that i dont have faith in ninty its just that i can't c how home consoles could progress......i'm thinking connectivity....online and GBE and DS.....

Only time will tell...... but spaceworld seems a bit early raven...they have to present and focus on the DS this year.....either that or big trouble for ninty.

I'm not sure about that. I mean that Nintendo said that it would be out 2005, Nintendo want it out before the XBOX2 and the PS3. But since there was nothing on them at E3(well to my knowledge) I spose that your probably right.

If they release some lame idea for the revolution then I'll be relly mad. It's a bit hearly to tell though. So heres hoping.

[Messiah]

I think the two mediums should stay seperated. I mean it would be nice to have a portable with that much power but i feel it would somehow detract from the gamming expience, it would also feel really awkward. I personally dont like the idea that my home console is also my portable one, i think they should be left as they are....thats just me though :D

[Daniel]

Originally posted by Messiah
I think the two mediums should stay seperated. I mean it would be nice to have a portable with that much power but i feel it would somehow detract from the gamming expience, it would also feel really awkward. I personally dont like the idea that my home console is also my portable one, i think they should be left as they are....thats just me though :D

Would have to agree. If this did happen then it would feel like 3 of Nintendos consoles were all portable(DS,GBA2,Rev.). I prefer to play under a TV it makes you feel as though you are getting what you paid for.

Say it might be a virtual headset. Mr Miyamoto says that he doesn't like how home consoles use TVs. Connect the dots.:rolleyes:

[johnnyb853]

when is space world?

[blablamax]

If there will be,and probably will in my opinion,then In the Summer ... if I dont mistake the last spaceworld in 2001 was in September .... am I wrong?

[andre]

i thought august or july maybe...but i dunno. I have to say, I really do like the new codename. Revolution....sounds akin to The Matrix....how neat. But there is no way on earth it would be at Space World...come now. Nintendo we're talking about. NINTENDO!! Hah. They're not dumb enough to reveal the Revolution this early. IMO, they should just wait for next gen to release new Zelda.

[NickTheGamer]

sounds corny as well!

[CronoEdge]

In an interview with Miyamoto (interview here) (http://wham.canoe.ca/gcn/topspot/2004/05/19/465640.html) He stated that they were going to wait and see how consumer's accepted the DS before any final decisions are made about what kind of features the nintendo revolution will have.

So the earliest we're going to see any real info about the nintendo revolution is probably E3 2005.

[alegoicoe]

I think that the Nintendo DS will attract alot of gamers cause of the unique features that the system has.

[Eph_Yu]

Maybe revolution will feature new ways to interact with games rather than making it a traditional game system with a conventional controller. It may feature touch stylus screen on controller, built-in voice recognition or even motion sensory for game interaction.

[blablamax]

The big change in my opinion on Nintendo next Homeconsole will be in the Controller. Whille the console will feature,no doubt,Online in someway ... to make new experince of gameplay is only throw the controller.

Maybe they will put a "built in" eye-toy-like in the next cube

[Kirbimirsha]

The motion sensory is a big likely ..... ninty have patented a thing with a company for ages and i think its likely that they will use it.

One things for sure......no more wires with the controllers. Slightly beefed up technology but the format ? disks most likely......but mini-disks ? its likely that the REV will be compatibable with the GC games so who knows......

[Shoxx]

Remember when Nintendo patented the controller with a screen? Bingo. They want to use it for the Nintendo Revolution, and use the touch screen features used in the DS. I feel it coming.

[andre]

I think I wouldn't like that kind of crap. I would just like the Cube controller but enhanced somehow....none of that controller screen stuff, sounds dumb. The motion sensing technology seems more likely, if anything.

[blablamax]

VEery very likely. And a biltin microphone in the controller will be a blast ... it like add new buttons .. but ... actually it's your voice which tell the character to change wepon,to load it ,ect.

[Nintendo]

I'm not sure if I would like the whole voice-recognition thing... for one, on most things today with voice recognition, you have to sit there for a while and say a lot of things before it knows your voice. So whenever anyone new wants to play, they would have to do something like that most likely. And also, if you are in a tense moment, and yell or something, it could misunderstand what you say

[Eph_Yu]

If the technology is weak then filure of recognition will arise. But Nintendo is working with partners that know their stuff (specific technology). They don't rely on just one technology to be the basis of their final product. Take the storge media for example. They chose Matsu****a for the mini-DVD format since they have the existing technology. There's a good possibility that the two companies may end up working together on REVOLUTION and the possibility of a mini-Blu-ray as the format of choice seems feeseable since the models(Blu-ray plyers) coming out in June(in Japan) are compatible with DVDs and guess who's releasing them.
Answer is Panasonic.

[blablamax]

The voice-recognition technology of today its pretty good. I saw it on Nkia phones and it works great .... I believe it will be much more advanced and work better and fater on the GCNext and the DS....

[Eph_Yu]

They will use the best technology as possible. Nintendo is known for its quality standards. They always give a year warranty on their consoles unlike the competition that only gives you 30 days for their console. They won't release a product with bugs as possibly as they could.

[Steve-AMN]

Nintendo will not release any specific info (if at all) about the Revolution till it is coming close to the release I.E. Nintendo DS.

Two...it is kewl not liking the name but come up with a better excuse then "it sounds like the Matrix". Just because the Matrix recently used the word Revolutions in thier title is a bad reason to not like the name. Hell, Nintendo probably had Revolutions picked out BEFORE Matrix:Revolutions was even made. So pick a better reason at least to not like the name.

Three, it is a HOME CONSOLE as Nintendo has said. That will mean it is NOT PORTABLE.

What is the freakin' huge deal with the "Eye Toy"? That thing is a piece of crap and a waste of time and money. Great if you are young and missed the whole "virtual reality" craze of the 90's. But excuse me when I say that I want to slap everyone that thinks the Eye Toys is amazing and should be in Nintendo's next console.

**Edit**

I am not saying not to guess at what Nintendo has to offer us in the next console. I actually think it is interesting to see what people think and stuff. All I am trying to say is that Nintendo has such different ideas that we probably won't even be able to GUESS at what they have up thier sleeves.
And to be quite honest I doubt ANYONE of us can even GUESS at what Nintendo has up thier sleeves for the next console. They are truly taking gaming into a new direction, for better or worse. Wether Nintendo suceeds or fails with thier next console, I know that whatever they throw at us will be different then anything we have seen before.

[koten]

This may be kind of a dumb idea, but what if nintendo made special controls that you could pull the wire out of the control and it would have a connection so that you can plug it into the GBA, in other words, merge the GBA, GCN cable into the controller. I'll try and draw a picture and post it if i can

[XboxEvolved]

Let me just say what I have to say about Nintendo Revolution.

First of all Nintendo is ran by a bunch of cryptic *****es who think they are cute funny fresh when they say **** like this. When I was at the Nintendo conference besides laughing at Iwata's accent he kept using the same goddamn word "Revolution" when describing Nintendo's future plans like it was Pee Wee's word of the day. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to guess that is the codeword but then again everyone could just be looking to much into it.

Now up until the day of the conference I attended I thought Nintendo was going to shoot themselves in the foot, I was told about the portable GC and was even told by 3 in-the-industry sources that was Nintendo's plans for next-gen. I still think Nintendo will release something like it, but that isn't all.

When I was at the conference the first half was bull****, bull****, bull****, it was nothing but them playing with the numbers and crap. Then the robo-reggie as I like to call him (because of his cold robotic way of movement, talking, and constantly looking at que cards) pulled out the DS and started talking about all it could do. When he said it could play GBA games I wasnt surprised, although I remember sometime ago debating with a lot of you rejects that DS HAD to play GBA games even though you insisted the DS was going to be totally different. Anyways as he went along I got more excited and now I can't wait for DS. Were is my point? Oh yeah ummm well the DS I believe, is the rebirth of GB and we will never see a GB as we knew before again. I believe Nintendo will focus more on handhelds and it is quite possible the Revolution will have more handheld functions then actual home functions. Then again I was wrong about Nintendo. All I can say is I am happy Nintendo FINALLY is looking to see what we want instead of forcefeeding us their bull****. I applaud Nintendo and hope they can hold their own in the next-gen.

[OutlawAdidas]

That puts a tear in my eye

[Eph_Yu]

Well, Nintendo already released the wavebird and did well. There's a possibility that they would release a wireless controller standard in their next generation that will be stolen by their competitors yet again.

[Rensa]

Originally posted by Eph_Yu
Take the storge media for example. They chose Matsu****a for the mini-DVD format since they have the existing technology.

Go language filter! Hyaaa!

I don't like the handheld/home convergence thing either - I've said it before and I'll say it again: handhelds shouldn't distract you. They're there for light play.

[NickTheGamer]

Originally posted by XboxEvolved
pulled out the DS and started talking about all it could do. When he said it could play GBA games I wasnt surprised, although I remember sometime ago debating with a lot of you rejects that DS HAD to play GBA games even though you insisted the DS was going to be totally different. Anyways as he went along I got more excited and now I can't wait for DS. Were is my point? Oh yeah ummm well the DS I believe, is the rebirth of GB and we will never see a GB as we knew before again. I believe Nintendo will focus more on handhelds and it is quite possible the Revolution will have more handheld functions then actual home functions. Then again I was wrong about Nintendo. All I can say is I am happy Nintendo FINALLY is looking to see what we want instead of forcefeeding us their bull****. I applaud Nintendo and hope they can hold their own in the next-gen.

Yes, but just like the playstation and nintendo 64 era. Im not in the liking of this cartridge idea. People like discs and the umd disc sounds more of a fav. to the people, imo. It is great that it can play GBA games. But, its going to cost them and i can feel it.

[XboxEvolved]

Perhaps you don't understand something--if this were say, a Sony mini-disc player, or other highend electronic it would work nearly flawlessly but would cost $500+

Now because Sony wants the thing to sell quick to the masses it has to be $300 therefore putting the quality down as well, just look at PS2. It is bad enough having a PS2 that malfunctions but people will be buying PS2s that you move around to make malfunction far faster? The PSP idea would be great...if you couldn't get the same exact games on any other console.

Maybe you haven't seen the doubt from developers, many developers were all for PSP blindly until E3 and then they were like WTFOMG?

[koten]

XBE, i really don't know if i want to get mad at you for the first half of the top post you made, or hug you for the second half of the top post and the bottom one too. It looks like you have finally realized nintendo can do things right, or maybe nintendo learned to do things right... whatever, just glad you are (somewhat) on our side

[XboxEvolved]

Well a lot like GCA's Sean O' Neil I had nearly given up all hope of Nintendo doign anything right or making games I not them want then out of no were BAM Nintendo does like nearly everything right in the span of 3 days. The thing is I hope Nintendo doesn't make a habit out of reviving themselves and then totally sucking for a few years or else I'm not gonna both with them playing games with my ever so tender heart :(

[NickTheGamer]

Originally posted by XboxEvolved
Maybe you haven't seen the doubt from developers, many developers were all for PSP blindly until E3 and then they were like WTFOMG?

the ps2 was the same way with the hard to develop for and the gcn's developer friendly. If I had to choose, i would love for the ds to succeed ten times over the psp, i for some reason just dont see it. :(

[Eph_Yu]

Nintendo is known for their innovation. Some people couldn't understand it sometimes. I like their attitute on how they position themselves in the industry. They bring something fresh and people would have mixed reactions. They attract attention more unlike the other companies and manage to impress the majority of their audience. DS and Revolution will earn success not only as conventional consoles but as systems with innovations( that will most likely be copied by the competition).

[Kirbimirsha]

Lets hope so, unfortunately you have other consoles overshadowing nintendo's creations.....revolution has to be good, i can't c nintendo bringing another console like that for no reason which will not be the case......

X-box 2 from what i've heard will only bigger and better than xbox, ps3 will be more a home media system potentially growing away from gaming, its original core.

I think if nintendo does succeed in surprising every1 it will gain a big part of the next gen share of the market.
I know we can trust them, iwata is not what we had before, a stubborn and traditional ( yet still respectful and great) man.

Ds is the first part of that road, next is the revolution.

[XboxEvolved]

Originally posted by NickTheGamer
the ps2 was the same way with the hard to develop for and the gcn's developer friendly. If I had to choose, i would love for the ds to succeed ten times over the psp, i for some reason just dont see it. :(

What I am saying is, developers dont know what it is really for, meaning they are completely confused on how Sony wants to market the machine and not enough info is available for it. Konami's president was quote to saying he thought it was stupid the thing could play movies, Square doesn't know what to do about it, and the majority of games in development for it are straight from Sony and are more or less ports.

[koten]

just randomly reminded by XBE mentioning Konami...

DAMN YOU! METAL GEAR IS NOT CARD BASED!!!!!!!!!!

I have to say that every time :)

[Nintendo]

I think the PSP is ridiculous... I am never paying that much for a handheld, and it looks really big. The DS, which they say has performance that is about Nintendo 64 quality looks awesome on that size screen. Near PS2 graphics (not that ps2 graphics are all that great anyway) is really not necessary. I see the PSP either completely failing, or being bought by all Playstation fans.

[Daniel]

Would have to agree with you Nintendo. I mean I can't get it how an analogue stick is under the d-pad. The games seem pretty lame as well. The GBA2 should have GCN graphics well if you think about it.

[blablamax]

MMmmm yes,it should...

[prime_timer]

I just want a regular console dammit

[johnnyb853]

they don't go to the xbox II pc/console hybrid (maybe)

[Daniel]

Things should go back the way that they were 10 years ago. Just consoles and games.

[Eph_Yu]

Sony started the trend of putting functionality on consoles and unfortunately it can't be shifted back since people find it cool and economical.

[XboxEvolved]

It is economical

[Freak of Kane]

Normally, I'd be the first to ***** about this new untypical machine...but 1. Yamauchi already said EARLIER this year that they'll be showing their new machine at E3 2005 and 2. I think if Nintendo did just release another console which is an upgrade ala NES/SNES/N64/GC, they wouldn't have an ice cube's chance in hell of surviving against MS and Sony. The third party situation is bad enough already and I don't see it improving for next gen. By providing something totally new, obviously there's the chance of hit or miss...but I'm sure given the right product, it'll hit. Nintendo are looking to reinvigorate the gaming market and I think this is the only way they may be able to do it. Sure a new "mature" Zelda is huge, but I don't think even that could do it. If it isn't a success, well...I guess they tried - but I applaud them for trying - I think they're gonna HAVE to do something different from the norm for next gen to have a chance of surviving...lets hope they do it right.

[Eph_Yu]

Reinventing the gaming experience is more like it. They'll freak us out in the first glimpse of their new product(like the Celshaded Zelda and DS). And the next thing ya know, everyone says "Hey, I can't believe this **** works!" or "Hell! This is freaking cool!" kind of stuff.

[Messiah]

Sorry i find it really hard to concentrate, i keep looking at your avatar Eph_Yu. Its really distracting, i keep thinking of situations that that guy might have been in when the picture was taken. Maybe he was taking a crap and someone opened the door on him or he just dropped a brick on his foot or he's just found his dog wizzing on his priceless vinyl records, there are so many variables :D

*tries to block picture*....ok back on topic, like FoK mentioned this is going to be a hit or miss affair. I'll be optimistic and predict it will be a success.

[Shoxx]

You can't just go back to consoles and games like it was ten years ago. Functionality is what is the standard in gaming now. Nintendo didn't have that with the GameCube now (until connectivity came along), and, the "Revolution" is going to have to have it if Nintendo wants to survive the next generation.

Now, with functionality in the coming years, consoles are going to become more and more like PCs, with the digital media capabilities, computer connectivity, and just everything that would make a console like a PC. We can't stop it, not until we're the presidents of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo. There's no way against it. We just have to admit that gaming consoles aren't strictly gaming anymore, and we have to get past it.

[xboxgamer]

i doubt they would make 2 handheld systems they all already DS unless Nintendo turn into a handheld gaming company .Maybe they should since GC is rank 3th in the game consoles GameBoy does way better.

[prime_timer]

They've said it wont connect to a TV right? maybe it'll be a console, but it has its own built-in screen, like a laptop. Im sure that deal they have with Sharp (the LCD screen producer for the DS) won't be limited to the DS alone.

[Nintendo]

it's 3rd not 3th

I don't think Nintendo should do something really out of the ordinary with their next console, but I think they need something that will make it stand out...

The handheld/console idea is kind of stupid. Like other people said, handhelds and consoles should be seperate. I wouldn't want to see Nintendo miss out on third party games because of the fact it was a portable, and therefore had a small screen, so the game wouldn't work.

A flip-top screen would be cool, AS LONG AS it had the possibility of hooking up to a TV. Even with my TV, 4 player games sometimes suck because the little screens are small, can you imagine trying to play something like double dash on a labtop size screen? The fliptop screen idea is cool, because it merges the idea of a handheld/console and a regular console... It can still be a console, it still hooks up to a TV, but it has the possibility to be played in the car on trips, or if your playing a LAN game, can take the place of a TV if needed. You can already by those screens for the consoles, why not put it on?

I think the fliptop screen would be cool. They should use that idea, plus perhaps a few other features. Things like that are cool, but don't make people look at it and say, "what the hell is that? thats not a console!"

[koten]

Originally posted by prime_timer
They've said it wont connect to a TV right? maybe it'll be a console, but it has its own built-in screen, like a laptop. Im sure that deal they have with Sharp (the LCD screen producer for the DS) won't be limited to the DS alone.

You mis quoted them buddy. They said it wont JUST connect to a tv. Meaning they'll do something interesting with the system (i am calling it a system now, cause they said it won't just be a console)

[prime_timer]

damn me and my misquotings. And, when i said the system (now im calling it a system!) would have its own screen, i'm not thinking small. im thinking a 30 inch LCD display. Of course, if youve got better (Say, a 60 inch Hi-Def set hooked up to your home theatre), then by all means there should be different ways to get the video to come out. But what Id like to see is one of those high resolution projectors, those things that will project like a 9 foot, crystal clear, potato chip crisp picture on your wall. That would kick ***

[koten]

and it would be really damn expensive too! But yeah, it sounds like a neat idea, but i dunno if it would be profitable for nintnedo, or affordable for us...

[prime_timer]

We'll just have to wait, I guess. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go rob a bank to get some funds for my time machine.

[koten]

Hah ... you'll get caught. Robing the ATM machines is easier

[prime_timer]

Good idea! and i forgot, today's Memorial Day. They always stock those things up on 3- day weekends! Your a genius koten!

[koten]

YAY! now i remember why your in my sig. You are crazy!

[andre]

the entire functionality stuff seems like crap. I liked the Cube, and I believe that LIMITED functionality is necessary, but it shouldn't be a goddamn swiss army knife. the more stuff is on it, the more can go wrong.

[koten]

OHH HELL YEAH! Exactly. I mean, If you look around, you can find a dvd player for 30 bucks (i have one) and it works better than the PS2 and XBOX DVD players, so i get a game system and dvd player for $130 bucks, and you guys for $150

[Cooolcorey]

Well I guess it made sense for the Xbox and PS2 to include DVD playback, since their game media is on DVD's. If they didn't people would be asking why they didn't.

I agree about the swiss army knife thing though, I'm just saying that I think people would question them if they didn't in this case.

[Eph_Yu]

Originally posted by xboxgamer
i doubt they would make 2 handheld systems they all already DS unless Nintendo turn into a handheld gaming company .Maybe they should since GC is rank 3th in the game consoles GameBoy does way better

Well, the home console business is bigger than ever. Even smaller player like Infinium Labs and Apex will attempt to have a share of the market. Nintendo will still survive as long as they have the games and creativity. But they have to be sure to have a lasting impression to make headway.

As for my pic(avatar),hey, it could have been worse.

[Messiah]

Yeah i spose it could be worse, who is it though, is it a wrestler or something cause he has that look about him

[andre]

his avitar should be the mascot for the Revolution.

[Messiah]

Yeah maybe, but nah.......just nah

[Eph_Yu]

Thanks for the attention guys. And yes, the pic is a wrestler. Wordlife anyone?

[alegoicoe]

Something new and improved in the console market wouldn`t be bad thats what Nintendi is doing

[andre]

but how "new and improved" do you all think? if it's a "swiss army knife" console, I am going to be a bit upset. For one, it would cost beaucoup bucks.

[Nintendo]

I think Nintendo will be forced to turn their console into somewhat of a "swiss army knife". I've said this before: There are lots of people that look at thier options, and if one of them costs a little more, but has more features, they will tend to "spend a little extra and get the better thing". Trying to sell a system that's cheaper and has less features would be popular for kids with less money, but will be looked down on.

[prime_timer]

Originally posted by Eph_Yu
Thanks for the attention guys. And yes, the pic is a wrestler. Wordlife anyone?

Advanced thugonomics, baby! Man i havent watched wrestling in a long *** time.....

Anywho, there are a couple multimedia things i wouldnt mind. Long ago, when i wanted an xbox (cut me some slack, i was 14 ;)), one of the coolest features i thought it had was the ability to rip your own soundtracks onto the hard drive, and then use them in games. I personally think that would kick *** if they had something along those lines in the Revolution. C'mon guys, you know Beethoven's 3rd Symphony and Rainbow Six go together like jam and bread, and it would be totally awesome to rock out to Lamb of God in Mario Golf. Thats a feature i myself would be willing to shell out a few extra bucks for.

[andre]

That would be pretty pimp. I would love to see some holographic stuff in Revolution. Maybe...oh. wouldn't it be so f_u_c_k_i_n_g awesome if there was NO television hook up? The images for the game would be projected by a hologram? that would rock.

[Eph_Yu]

Originally posted by prime_timer
Advanced thugonomics, baby! Man i havent watched wrestling in a long *** time.....


Hmmm...good one. Maybe I'll mke it my title someday.

Back to the topic. Consoles with functionality would sell well 'coz it(functionality) does not only add value to the console but it also improves the games(e.g. xbox harddrive allows you to costumize the games and mpeg2 capable PS2 could play high quality FMVs). Nintendo should also think of adding fuctionality while innovating gaming experience.

[prime_timer]

yeah, its amazing all the little names etched onto the PS2 and Xbox, the little things that say "DVD" "Compact Disc" "Dolby Digital" and the like. I really want the Revolution to support Dolby Digital 5.1 or 7.1, even though i dont have that kind of sound hook-up, i'll probally have it once i move into my own apartment and dont have to share the TV with anybody else (except maybe some video game lovin' room mates :D). And more Progressive Scan enabled games. It seems like almost every game on Xbox can be displayed in 480p or 720p, while only 2nd and 1st party games on GC can be displayed in a high resolution (although there is the occasional 3rd party game, ala Viewtiful Joe.).

[andre]

that's true. Nintendo needs to recognize the functionality, but should do so in a limited manner. And hey, if the console has a hard drive, maybe a few built in games from the SNES and N64 days could be included as a bonus. Maybe Mario 64? Heh. The game will continue to sell for 10 years after it comes out. lol.

[Link]

That's a cool idea, if it would work. Hey, maybe Nintendo could allow players to download old games for a nominal charge. That would rock hard!

[andre]

I guarantee that it would be an instant hit. I don't know why it shouldn't work. If they would just upgrade the graphics on Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Mario 64, and maybe Goldeneye, and slap those babies on the Revolution hard drive (without the possibility of them being burned, obviously), they would make a killing. The downloading idea would be good too.

[Messiah]

Yeah built in games would be great, and a bigger incentive to buy

[MAX]

didn't sega do that with Genesis? If you didn't put a game in, and turned it on, you could play some weird maze game?

[Monkeylord]

They did it with both the Megadrive (Genesis) and Master System - you could get the Master System with either "Alex Kidd" or "Sonic" and the Megadrive with "Sonic". I'm sure there were more games built in to them (only one per machine) but those are the only ones that spring to mind.

[Messiah]

Yeah my friend had a Master System with Alex the Kid, its was great, gotta get those burgers....

[andre]

Do you think Nintendo should have promotions and celebrity tie-ins for Revolution?

[koten]

maybe, if they are people who actually play video games, but i prefer seeing actual people who play games advertise. But then again, celebrities sell

[andre]

which is what pisses me off about suXBOX. Micro$oft thinks that they can just throw money at Shaq and other morons to pimp their stuff.

I loved the N64 Taco Bell promotion. If Nintendo could blanket the market with promotions, it would get the word out quicker.

[Nintendo]

I agree with you guys on a lot of stuff. I think Nintendo should put some extra feature on the Revolution, but if it's too different, it might be bad. For example, I think the DS is cool, but will most likely have different types of games available for it than the the gameboy or psp, because of all it's different features. This isn't bad, because it also has the gba port, so we can still play our gameboy games. However, if something this radical is released on a console, it could possibly lose 3rd party support, which isn't exactly Nintendo's strong suit right now anyway. So, in my opinion, features are needed: such as probably a harddrive, online, dolby surround sound, possibly the flip-top screen idea, or maybe the custom sound track feature, but something completely radical could be bad.

[Danthrax]

Hi all, I'm the new face around here. [waves friendly-like]

As far as what the Revolution could feature, I don't think Nintendo would follow the mold by just having a hard drive with music-ripping abilities, online, etc. I think wireless LAN included in the system is a possibility, however.

I have a group of about a dozen friends who get together to play video games every week, (8 player Mario Kart and 12 player Halo is massive fun,) but finding enough TVs to support two or three systems is sometimes a little tough. With Nintendo's recent announcement that Revolutuion will be able to hook up to computer monitors, that would make LAN parties a lot easier to set up as most people have one, if not multiple computers in their house.

If Nintendo has the same train of thought as me, they may be looking to simplify LAN parties by widening the range of displays to use (TVs and PC monitors) and by eliminating the need for wires with a wireless LAN adaptor. Just a speculation, but it seems to fit Ninty's attitude of innovation and simplification.

As for the flip-top screen, I doubt that would be a good idea to include with the system. It isn't necessary and would likely raise Revolution's cost by quite a lot. And why include an attached monitor when you can apparently hook the thing up to a computer screen?

-Danthrax

[andre]

welcome Danthrax. Andre here. Without an ego, I am one of the coolest people here. :P

I have a really cool computer monitor, and when I move out I plan to get an apple. They have a cinema display, 23 inch LCD or plasma or whatever. That would be wicked cool to play games on.

So, I was mulling over the idea of a controller. Would Nintendo use a traditional type thing, or maybe go for something more along the lines of touch screen interactivity?

[Nintendo]

I think that it's needed to have a standard controller, most likely a modified wavebird standard. Some kind of touch-screen technology integrated would be cool, I'm just not sure how. Maybe a small touch screen on the controller you can use to turn rumble on and off or whatever... I don't know. Wireless LAN would be cool- that way you don't have to have all the connections needed to LAN- one of the only reasons I haven't tried it.

[andre]

and plus I've heard that the LAN for Mario Kart is practically worthless anyway, doesn't have any features.

I should mail the contents of this thread to Nintendo of America. They are usually very good at answering fan mail.

[Danthrax]

I never thought the Mario Kart LAN mode was worthless. I've played 8-player MKDD several times and the only main feature it lacks is the ability to choose your characters. The game randomly gives you whatever characters and kart it wants to, which is a good and bad thing. Good, because there's no fighting over characters and is simpler in general; bad, because sometimes you get stuck with a crap team or a set of kart attributes you're not good at racing with. Despite this, the game is fun for everyone (even the people in 7th and 8th places, if you can believe that).

Back on topic... If someone told me Nintendo was going to put a small screen (or even touch screen!) on Revolution's controller, I'd believe them. It sounds like they're already moving in this direction with the GBA connectivity. I don't think this would be a bad thing, unless the screen wasn't backlit. I've tried playing Four Swords Adventures with an original GBA and it sucks having to move your hands higher from a resting position into the light and mess with the angle of your GBA until you can see the screen decently. It's tolerable, but not fun. Backlit screens are so much better. However, I don't know how battery-efficient that would be (or even having a screen in general would be) if the controller is wireless.

It seems that there's a trade-off for standardized wireless controllers: either a wired controller with rumble pak and built-in screen, or a wireless controller without either feature. I'd rather put up with wires, especially for the rumble pak (an innovation I've loved since the N64). Ninty COULD put rechargeable Li-Ion batteries into each wireless controller to lengthen play time and have features like a rumble pak, but wouldn't it be kind of akward to plug four controllers into the wall when you're done playing so they could recharge?

After considering all of this, wireless controllers might not be the standardized way to go with Revolution if Nintendo wants to include innovations like a touch screen or the rumble pak.

-Danthrax

[Igotnoname]

I don't think that they are gonna have a screen on a controller. At one time I did but then Iwata said that the Revolution wasn't gonna have more than 1 screen or something like that. So that makes it alot more unlikely that controllerss will have screens on them.

[Nintendo]

the revolution could have 4 charging cradles on it for the controllers

[andre]

That sounds cool, but it might be a bit bulky and suck up the juice a bit too much. Why not just make it a power substation? lol.

[Nintendo]

maybe, but it could work

[Rensa]

Consider a controller that, instead of simply having a wire from controller to console, had a socket on both ends, and came with a cable, as well as a wireless transmission set. That way, you could switch from wired to wireless whenever you wanted. Perhaps that'd make things easier for the varying situations in which you play?

[andre]

that would be neat

[BigBroMario]

And it could charge the battery while it was wired to the console. That's an awesome idea Rensa.

[Nintendo]

Yeah, so if your low on batteries you could just plug in the cord and keep playing.... good idea

[Danthrax]

That would be a good idea, Rensa. Then you could have a rumble pak in the controller, but it would be easy to charge the thing up when it runs low. It could have a light that changes color depending on its charge, like with the GBA, so you know when to plug it back into the console.

But wouldn't you need to keep the console on while the controllers are charging? Nintendo would have to make it so that the current kept running through the system and into the controllers, even while it's "turned off." Otherwise, it would be annoying to play with a wireless controller for a while, then when you're done playing you have to leave your console on all night while the thing recharges.

As far as the screen in the controller, yeah, I forgot Iwata said they wouldn't do any two-screen gimmicks with the Revolution, so I guess that's out. Maybe microphones in the controllers, though? That wouldn't be too hard to put in.

-Danthrax

[Nintendo]

I personally don't like the idea of "voice command" in games, but i you could use the built in microphones for online games it would be cool (considering they go online with the revolution)

[BigBroMario]

Yeah it does seem kind of awkward just shouting things into something that isn't alive, kinda like talking to yourself. But like in the DS's case, the microphone will probably be mainly used for voice chat while playing online.

[Igotnoname]

Or picking up sounds from like clapping. On another forum I posted an idea for DK jungle beat using the touch screen as the bongos and the mic for clapping. And for hitting the sides you just tap the L and R buttins. ( idea is for the DS)

[Cooolcorey]

Wouldn't it be hard to clap with a stylus in one hand and the DS in the other?

[Igotnoname]

Yah that would be the only problem. you'd have to play with the DS on your lap or on a table or something.

[Nintendo]

that dk jungle beat for the ds would be really hard to play...

How well would a mic on the controller pick up your voice for voice chat? Usually you have a headset or something... but it works on cell phones with speakerphone so I guess it could work.

[Danthrax]

Yeah, speakerphones are a good example of microphones working with voices that are a foot or two away. I think voice recognition would be great for games. One use that comes to my mind is for switching weapons in a first-person shooter. In TimeSplitters 2, you have to take your left thumb off the control stick to change weapons on the control pad, or reach your right thumb all the way over to the control pad (a feasible option for someone with long fingers like me, but it's still uncomfortable). But it would be much easier if you could simply say "change weapon" or some other vocal command and cycle through weapons while maintaining full control over movement.

Voice recog. could also be used for other inventory-management purposes, like instead of assigning just three items to buttons in a Zelda game, you could say the name of ANY of the items in your inventory and Link would immediately bring it out. The possibilities are really cool =)

-Danthrax

[johnnyb853]

i could have a cell phone function in its future, you have head phones in your ears, the touch screen to dial the number, and the microphone ot speak in (you don't have to hold it to your head it the microphone is sensitive) or a mirophone in the headhone

[Kirbimirsha]

I think that this will be a part of the next generation of videogames......other ways to interact are the key for moving forward....

That donkey kong JB idea would be awesome on the DS ! if awkward aswell...

Cellphone funtionality seems unlikely....at least seeing what nintendo does at the moment. Its tooo complicated in my opinion......

[andre]

Nintendo wouldn't do cellular phone functionality. No way. No how.

[blablamax]

They won't,they are toy company in their "rutes" and Nintendo have no interse in the market. Upon that, they will need to put a HUGE affort and money to get into this "NOKIA" market and they cant do it by themselves (Like Sony partner with Ericsson ..I think)

[Nintendo]

I think putting a cell phone into a console would be kind of pointless, but it would be cool if you could use the mic. for voice-chat online.

[Kirbimirsha]

Putting a cellphone in the system is like ............... putting the cinema in your system ( HAHA sony ! ) :pwn:

[Nintendo]

hey, kirbimirsha, I just noticed your sig. - is that geneva as in Illinois your talking about?

[Kirbimirsha]

Geneva as in switzerland......

[Nintendo]

oh well then nevermind, I thought you lived by me

[Kirbimirsha]

oh well LOL

[Nintendo]

Another idea I had for the Revolution was that it should have a web browser, like the dreamcast. That would be cool.

[alegoicoe]

of course trhe revolution will have online capabilities, but I stick with Nintendi idea that online is not everything in the gaming world.

[Eph_Yu]

In my opinion, Nintendo should relize the importnce of online capabilities as component necessary to add new gaming experience. Simple LAN networking is decent first step. I've only wished that games like Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicle freatured LAN for multiplayer rather thn to put a bunch of GBAs on the cube(it could have sparked the broadband sales not to mention the game itself) or EA releasing LAN capable sports titles rather than GCN-GBA connectivity but that's just wishful thinking. Nintendo is not aggressive enough to push their networking/online program(if there is any).

[MAX]

I hope that the next nintendo console comes with wi-fi and/or bluetooth!

[Nintendo]

I think Nintendo needs to learn that connectivity sucks.