President Bush Approval Rating

[Matt]

Basically, answer the question and post any thoughts you have.

[Professor Go]

This is a bit vague.. I mean there are tons of issues to work out. I applaud his raising the AIDS budget but I don't approve of him trying to blow up the world.

[MoN]

I agree with Bush on some things:

70% on the war (went about it the wrong way, perhaps)
Gay Marriage
Abortions

Maybe other things. Can't say I'm against him on much other than a lot of the economic struggle, partially due to war and stuff.


EDIT: I added Unsure because I am unsure. If you (Adrian) want to change your vote you can just place it here.

[Professor Go]

What do you guys think about this new energy bill?

[MoN]

I haven't heard about it, really. What's it about?

(I don't follow politics/news that often)

[GBA]

I don't. Gay marriages is just wrong. "God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." lol.

[MoN]

Originally posted by GBA
I don't. Gay marriages is just wrong. "God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." lol. He is against gay marriages. (like I am)

(Hope no one is offended, it's my beliefs. sorry if you are)

[Professor Go]

Hey it's your belief.. although I totally am for gay marriages, or at the least legal civil unions. As for the energy bill, I haven't been keeping that close an eye on it either, but it's going to cost 31 billion dollars.

All I know is that it's really crappy for environmental standards and Republican John Cain called it a "twelve-hundred-page monstrosity chock full of special-interest giveaways." Take that as you will.

[Matt]

AHHH!!!

The reason I didn't put Unsure is so people are forced to decide Yes/No, just like in the real Approval Ratings that are done.

[MoN]

I'll give the benefit of doubt to the President for now because I really don't care.

[Jog DMC]

Originally posted by Angry Liberal
Hey it's your belief.. although I totally am for gay marriages, or at the least legal civil unions. As for the energy bill, I haven't been keeping that close an eye on it either, but it's going to cost 31 billion dollars.

All I know is that it's really crappy for environmental standards and Republican John Cain called it a "twelve-hundred-page monstrosity chock full of special-interest giveaways." Take that as you will. Yeah, they should just call them civil unions. I can only hope that'll stop all the flap about it...

As for the energy bill, I've heard it has something to do with Hooters, I have no idea how that happened :confused: ...

I don't really have much against Bush. I just don't like one party running the show (it would be just as bad if the Dems were doing it).

[GBA]

Originally posted by MoN
He is against gay marriages. (like I am)

(Hope no one is offended, it's my beliefs. sorry if you are)
I thought he was for them. I'm against gay marriages. Just think if a kid has two dads, what will he be when he grows up. Older guys are giving kids ideas, and usually boys would like to be like their dads.

[Professor Go]

Being gay is an orientation, you don't just "become" gay by seeing other people. I hope you're not straight becuase you saw straight people on TV and thought it would be "kewl".

And there have been many kids of gay parents already. I would say as long as a kid has a warm, loving house to live in, who the bloody heck cares. I also think the millions of orphans around the world would disagree with you.

[Matt]

"God gave us Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" is getting lame these days.

[Wh|tE gUy]

I am indiferent towards bush, but i do tend to hate most bush-bashers so does that mean i approve of him. I suppose the enemy of my enemy is my friend...

[Sean-AMN]

Lol many of you know how I feel. I am a die hard Republican! I support Bush 100% except for 1 thing ... this whole legalize ILLEGAL immigrants... I feel stronger border security and a push to export any illegal in the US. The idea of illegal immigrations is an insult to every person who came to this country the LEGAL way

[Professor Go]

But then who would clean toilets, pull weeds and clean houses for substandard pay and no insurance??

[Link]

I don't like Bush, mainly because of the War in Iraq, but also because he is against conservation of natural resources.

[MoN]

Originally posted by Angry Liberal
But then who would clean toilets, pull weeds and clean houses for substandard pay and no insurance?? Wal-mart employees? Crap.

[Sean-AMN]

Originally posted by Angry Liberal
But then who would clean toilets, pull weeds and clean houses for substandard pay and no insurance??

Simple, we have a huge workforce in the US that we could use.... Inmates. They need to pay their debt to us... why not make it hard work. It would deter more criminals.

[Professor Go]

So wait your argument was that taking out illegals will provide work for other legal americans, how will putting prisoners to work doing menial tasks for *nothing* provide anything for the economy?

I can see putting prisoners to work fighting fires and testing bear traps would probably be good, but I think illegals often do the jobs Americans don't want to do -

EDIT: Also do you really want a prisoner cleaning your house?

[Just Gabriel]

You know what the thing is? While bush may or may not be the best leader for the United States, he is not the only one running the show. President seems to be a title that people see as "omnipotent" when it comes to running government, but Bush is actually not the only one responsible for running America. Sure, he may be the leader, but all of the decisions of the United States are not only decided upon by him.

[Sean-AMN]

"EDIT: Also do you really want a prisoner cleaning your house?"

Lol have you seen my house.... Ill have anyone over to clean it... eww.. whats that smell...

BTW: I never said they are taking jobs away from legals.... I am saying for jobs like picking grapes and stuff stike the bumbs from jail out there.

[Link]

Originally posted by Gabriel
You know what the thing is? While bush may or may not be the best leader for the United States, he is not the only one running the show. President seems to be a title that people see as "omnipotent" when it comes to running government, but Bush is actually not the only one responsible for running America. Sure, he may be the leader, but all of the decisions of the United States are not only decided upon by him.

Yes, wasn't it a running joke that Bush was incapable of making decisions on his own?

[Wh|tE gUy]

Ya, many people believed that it was Dick Cheney who was actually acting as president while Bush sat in a corner with his coloring book.

[Sean-AMN]

Here is what gets me, the demoncrats keep saying he is stupid... yet on every issue he pitches he outsmarts them and gets it passed! ... the question is... who is the stupid ones... the guy who is called stupid or those calling him that, yet they keep losing seats in the congress, senate and the state

[Professor Go]

Bush stangheld sentiments both public and governmental after 9/11 - with the phrase, "Either you're with us or you're against us", he paved a path that threatened those who opposed the issues on his platform, so in essence - either you agree with his agenda or you are not a patriot. THAT is partly how he has gotten things passed, and the other is the gullibility of America by allowing him to.

And if anyone has ever seen him speak publically, it is QUITE obvious this guy is a baboon.

[Pojo]

Yes, I do. I'm sure "Angry Liberal" would beg to differ, though.

http://www.oop-ack.com/images/lord_dubya.jpg

All hail lord Dubya.

[Professor Go]

Heil Bush! ;)

[Link]

I just don't like the fact that he's alienating the U.S. from the United Nations.

[David85]

This is kind of dumb, it's much more than "yes or no".

I supported him going to war, I don't think he had a clue about post war through. I support the tax cuts.

I don't support his crazy religous views about abortions (except for that one sick sick kind), gay rights, stem cells.

The sad thing is I wouldn't vote for him in 2004, but he's the best person running right now, it's so sad.

[Professor Go]

I am waiting for the democratic candidates to rip him to shreds in debates. That's where Bush really fails. I can't stand that fake smile of his and that smirk.

[Lovebird]

bush has done jack squat for america , all he's done for me is kill my cousin and not answered any of my letters, so as far as i'm concerned taht jerka@# go feel a cow. that's all i'm gonna say, i odn't wanna get started on this...

[Professor Go]

Please, get started. There's no end to how Bush sucks.

[MoN]

Sorry about your cousin. However, people who join any form of military should know they can die. I would never join the military, and if a draft ever formed, to Canada I'd go...

[David85]

People are dumb and don't realize we live in a world of war. So the people join the army and then freak out when they have to go. My own cousin is doing that, and he calls me a wimp, I call myself smart.

[Lovebird]

he knew he could die.....but not over a bunch of bullplop! this "war" on iraq is based nothing, there is no good reason for america to be there. i know the iraqi poele may be suffering and wat not, but is that worth the lives of our own citizens, is starting a war based on no facts or proof worth our citizens, that is to say, americas citzens lives? no, it's not. america's army should not be protecting iraq, it should be protecting america. if iraq was threatening america, or if bush had proof they had "biological and chemical" bombs ready to be launched at america, i would be happy we are in war rite now, i would be proud of my cousin, and the sacrafice he made. but there is no proof, he died for no reason at all, no cause, just bush because he thought they have weapons, he doesn't know they have weapons.
i know iraq needs help, and i know other countries need help similar to the same way iraq needs help, but america cannot be solving everyone else's problems. an then, when those people call america names, and say america sucks because they aren't helping their country, well those people need to see, that america is not there mother. america is not the universal bandaid that you stick on every wound, i'm not saying america shouldn't help others out, i'm saying that america can't help everyone. let britain help someone out, let russia help em out, let germany help em out. there are other powerful countries in the world with armies other than america!

[Nigel]

I am soooo.... wow I just hate President Bush... let me find that thing... one second....

President's Bush's resume....

ah can't find it. But it's funny. Really funny.....

76% of europeans view him as the biggest threat to world peace and stability. hehe.

ACLU!!!!! :)

[Professor Go]

Bush right now is the most dangerous person on this planet. What a purely horrible thought.

[Boondock Saint]

Originally posted by GBA
I don't. Gay marriages is just wrong. "God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." lol.

so if i insist to work on sundays, does the entire village have to stone me to death?

if i play football, does that make me unclean for touching the skin of a dead pig?

take your 'humor' and shove it. i say, let people do what they want...it's free will that god wanted anyway, and you can't do anything about freewill. otherwise, we'd all be christian or muslim or anything else.

*EDIT* back to bush, our economy's shite, all of our international friends are abandoning us, and we won't do anything about real threats, like ultra-conservative political despots who want to kill everyone with different ideals. hey...wait just a minute. that sounds like bush.

[Nigel]

Originally posted by GBA
I don't. Gay marriages is just wrong. "God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." lol.

That is so ignorant, and I've heard that so many time. I don't care about your family values or your religion, they cannot be part of the law. And quite frankly, I am opposed to your belief not only because I have a friend who is gay, but also because I think that ALL people should have equal rights, and I'm sick of laws that favor Christian Conservative Extremists.

[Lovebird]

i 100% agree nigel, i mean, how is saying it's not ok for homosexuals to get married anydifferent then being racist? hm? additionally, how is it any different calling people "fags" and "queers" from calling people the "n" word and what not? it's the same, and people are too ignorant to realise, which is one of the resons i wish i didn't live in america, cause sooooo many americans are homophobes...

[Roguematt7]

Churches generally don’t approve of gay marriage, they don’t generally approve of anything in the modern world, but people can get married in a court by a judge. If the United States bans people from getting married because of the way they were born, because of something genetic (and being gay is genetic, there are gay animals… contrary to popular belief people don’t become gay from watching Lifetime, they become retarded that way) then that’s wrong. The basis of this country is that everyone is created equal. If gays are banned from getting hitched because of something genetic that compels them to be with a member of the same sex then so too should all whites from getting hitched to other whites or blacks with other blacks. The church not withstanding, there should be no reason for the government not to recognize gay marriage, because gays can’t share the same rights as married couples through civil unions (if one gets sick and goes to a hospital, their partner can’t be with them, etc.). I myself am all about the ladies, but I’ve got a couple members of my family who are gay and the idea that they’re not allowed the same rights as everyone else is terrible. To those who oppose gay marriage, imagine if your sibling or child were to be gay, would you want them to be discriminated against? That's what I'm curious about, if you'd turn your back on a close family member just because they are who they are.

As a close personal friend of Sean who helps run this joint, I will refrain from getting into any sort of Bush-related rants out of respect for his views, but I just wanted to say my piece about this issue that shouldn’t even be an issue.

[Boondock Saint]

there's actually a guy who wrote a letter to the editor in today's edition of the gamecock (our campus newspaper) that said the reason gays want to get married is b/c of fiscal benefits and tax breaks, and that they shouldn't be allowed to marry for that reason...

it amazes me how much people take the humanity out of a person for his/her lifestyle, and don't make the effort to realize that these people love each other, and after all, that's what this world is about...finding someone. if it's someone of the same sex...so be it, they can't help the way they are...no matter what the bible says.

also, there are scholars (biblical ones) who say that the meaning of the hebrew word for same-sex (meaning the word used in the bible) most likely ACTUALLY means someone of clerical status, which would make sense as it's in the same book as the bit about clerical relations and whatnot...

*EDIT* oh, and that 'lifetime' remark was hilarious. i laughed for like three minutes straight.

[Rensa]

Seeing as I'm not American, all I really hear about Bush (and thius know) is related to the war. So basically, no. If Bush could learn to share with the rest of the world, my opinion would probably change.

[Matt]

Wow, as Bush's Approval Rating by the "real" polls is like 60%+, GCA's forums approval is under 50%.

Remember, Bush is better for gamers. The Democrats are the ones wanting to ban games and such.

[Nigel]

That statement is false and I feel the need to correct it. Democrats do not want to BAN games. In fact, it would be against the general beliefs of the democratic party to do so, as they are MORE in favor of our civil liberties than the Republicans. What the Democrats are trying to do is keep M and T rated games out of the hands of eight-year-olds, but they aren't passing any laws in the process.

[Boondock Saint]

i completely agree, and i think that if it's really up to the parents. whenever you hear of someone wanting to BAN something, it's usually the right-wingers, scared that it's going to go against the morals of their religious beliefs and whatnot.

the same goes for movies and books. it's mostly driven b/c religious people like to pass judgement on everyone else's morals and try to force them to have the same beliefs that they have. not to knock religion, it's just where the republican party pulls it's 'moral leadership' from, hence the stance on homosexuality, freedom of speech (as in, 'don't criticize our president in times of war') and black people. they hate black people here in the south, and i wouldn't be surprised to find out that's the reason everyone here votes for them.

[Kaizoku_Kouji]

I'm personally for President Bush. I read something about eliteist Democrats (most of the Dems are this), and how their main weapon is their ability to say something mean about Conservatives (Republicans), and once they are proven wrong or their jokes get too old, they are powerless. I can't remember the exact context, but that was the general idea.

Also, Republicans aren't against liberty. I've heard BOTH sides complaining about "violent" games (GTA3 and GTA vice city mostly) and how they should be pulled from the shelves (all of the preppy girls at my school are convinced thusly as well).

[Nigel]

The concept of conservatism, which is widely associated with the Republican party is an assault on liberty. Conservatives generally push their beliefs on others and force people to follow them or their religion. that's why I joined the ACLU, b/c I'm against that.

[Rensa]

Let's just agree that everyone does a pretty sloppy job.

ALthough, it's worth noting that true Democracy (everyone voting on everything) probably wouldn't work.

[Boondock Saint]

Originally posted by Rensa
Let's just agree that everyone does a pretty sloppy job.

ALthough, it's worth noting that true Democracy (everyone voting on everything) probably wouldn't work.

not true. it's just it will never happen here b/c our system is run by two parties, and whenever a third party is introduced, on either side of the poltical spectrum, they are shut out of any publicity.

i think that most democrats that get nominations (especially for president) are little different from their republican counterparts, b/c the party feels safe when it's balancing right in the middle. if a real democrat ever got the nomination, it would be a cold day in hell...and i would predict he'd win by a landslide. until then, we're stuck with just slightly less evil than republicans...

and as for the assault on liberty part, don't EVEN get me started on the so-called Patriot Act...

and it's not my main tool to make conservatives look bad, they do a pretty good job of it themselves by sticking their feet in their mouths...and i like ideas...who's given us any ideas this year? kucinich has, but he's not going to get nominated b/c he's ACTUALLY a democrat.

[Professor Go]

Er.. the last thing I'm thinking about when I vote is, "which candidate is the best for gamers?"

Originally posted by Matt


Remember, Bush is better for gamers. The Democrats are the ones wanting to ban games and such.

[Wh|tE gUy]

Video games are like crack. Make them as illegal as you want, ill still be able to get my hands on some

[Nigel]

Originally posted by Professor Go
Er.. the last thing I'm thinking about when I vote is, "which candidate is the best for gamers?"

THAT NEEDED TO BE SAID. Thank you! Howard Dean for America.

[Wh|tE gUy]

I think it all depends on the Iraq situation at the time of next election. If the UN is involved and taking care of things, we can afford to elect a new presedent. However, if its still us and England taking care of Iraq, i would prefer a leader that already has a drawn out plan and experience with the nation of Iraq. The worst thing we can do right now is pull out of Iraq. We alienated half of the world by going in there and pulling out would only piss off the other half.

Anyone agree with my logic?

[Boondock Saint]

Originally posted by Wh|tE gUy
However, if its still us and England taking care of Iraq, i would prefer a leader that already has a drawn out plan and experience with the nation of Iraq.

wow, that's assuming there IS a plan. there WAS a plan for after the war, and i think it's safe to say it's failed miserably. i don't think we need to pull out, but i say that if a new president has an actual plan for getting everything on the right track, then he should be in office. and actually, the country, you know OUR COUNTRY, could use some sound economic, civil liberty and foreign relations policies about now...

so i guess what i'm saying is this: no, i won't be voting for bush.

[Matt]

George W. Bush is a strong leader. He lets the world know that the United States is not to be messed with. That helps protect the nation. It won't be an easy target anymore.

Also, George W. Bush has sent troops to Iraq and Afghanistan and liberated them from terrible rulers who had killed way more. Saddam Hussein killed thousands of civillians -- purposefully. The U.S. hasn't killed 1000 yet, and none were with intent.

[Boondock Saint]

Originally posted by Matt
George W. Bush is a strong leader. He lets the world know that the United States is not to be messed with. That helps protect the nation. It won't be an easy target anymore.

Also, George W. Bush has sent troops to Iraq and Afghanistan and liberated them from terrible rulers who had killed way more. Saddam Hussein killed thousands of civillians -- purposefully. The U.S. hasn't killed 1000 yet, and none were with intent.

yeah, maybe...

but why don't we pull our heads out of our iraq for just a second and look at how shitty everything actually is here in OUR country for a moment...?

2.4 million lost jobs in the past three years, sustainable unemployment (meaning w/out jobs for longer than six months) is several hundred thousand, companies aren't hiring, indicating private-sector growth has gone on vacation.

$400 billion on military, while government programs such as medicare/medicaid face being turned private, while many people can't afford it. social security is on the decline, with just over 2.5 workers earning for one person...in the next few years it will become worse, eventually leaving fractions of people working for multiple persons.

back on the world front:

the world doesn't trust us, and we've pulled out of every single thing that could possibly gain trust...the international court, failure to sign non-nuclear proliferation act (which we've forced on so many other countries) and we've all but abandoned the UN. even the support we are getting from our friends isn't enough to make any real difference.

what you have with the bush administration is someone who's NOT fiscally responsible, a key factor to being a republican, and who doesn't consider what the world thinks (i believe the quote was "i will not be swayed by the opinions of the world", during the war, but hey, i thought that's what a president needed to do, be serving to the VAST MAJORITY of people).

so, you can think of iraq as a success, but the war's not even over there! this past month we lost more soldiers than the past two or three combined. and this rhetoric of 'they're getting desperate, so we must be winning' is really retarded! i mean, if we were winning, we'd not be getting attacked...

any time there are still shots being constantly fired, and troops being killed, war's still on. so, think what you want, and we'll see what happens next year.

[Kaizoku_Kouji]

I agree with Matt. Bush is only doing good things. I don't see anything about him snogging someone in the oval office, like a certain OTHER president *cough*Clinton!*cough*

[Boondock Saint]

since when is a private, sexual affair worse than lying to millions of people, ruining the economy and initiating wars that have no justification as far as what he said the reasons were?

i fail to see the relation here...in fact, i find it amusing that bush's supporters only bring up clinton's personal infidelities and weaknesses when comparing the two administrations.

why do you think that is? maybe it's because the policies of bush's suck when compared side by side with the results of the clinton administration?

obviously, bush's so-called morals don't make his policies better, since our country's economy has gotten MUCH MUCH worse than when clinton was in office, and they don't make up for the fact that clinton's policies actually worked...

[Professor Go]

Word

Bush has set more horrific foreign policy precedents than I could have ever imagined, insulted entire countries boldfacedly, mocked and DARED the enemy to "bring it on" (as if they needed any encouragement) and served to exploit 9/11 for his own agendas.. his policies not only sicken me but his ability to DIVIDE his own country by "either you're with us or against us" rhetoric tells me that we need a peaceful unifier more than ever.

[Boondock Saint]

shit man, i'm glad at least SOMEONE on here understands what i'm saying...

[Wh|tE gUy]

let me ask you this, would you rather have a president that will pull us completely out of iraq or keep bush in, provided UN still refuses to send aid?

[Boondock Saint]

i'd like to see a president that actually knows what foreign relations means. i think that the president should be seeking further help from the un to get our boys out of there, but he's simply being very stubborn, and stubborn isn't one of the qualities someone should have when dealing with THE ENTIRE WORLD. so, i want us out, but we have to have someone that's willing to do the rounds on the world circuit first. let's make one thing very clear here, though: going in was a mistake from the get-go. there was no clear objective (was it to find nuclear weapons? what about support of terrorists? was it to free the iraqis?), and there was no plan to get the country back on the right track. they show all this footage of people that LOVE us for coming in, but what they don't tell you is that it's all footage of the Kurds in the north, not the people saddam actually considered iraqis, and his people.

by the way, the last reason, the 'liberation' reason was complete bunk. we're party to several treaties, and certain world organizations, that say it's illegal to forcefully go into another country and 'liberate' the citizens. if palestine decided to liberate itself from israel, we'd make a huge fuss about it, even though it'd be a group of people in the country that actually wanted seperation and not someone from the outside who wanted seperation for them...

and secondly, in all of this, if you think OIL had nothing to do at all with the war, you're mistaken. i'm not saying it was the reason we went in, but it had something to do with it. if you think that a region with over 70% of the world's oil reserves doesn't make a country go apeshit over the oil, you're just being ignorant.

*EDIT* just so you can read further into it, here are some recent foreign relations blunders bush is pulling:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20031210/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_932

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031210/ap_on_re_as/koreas_nuclear_13

wow, and i thought that our goal was to get them to stop making the nukes in any way possible. oh, wait...it has to serve our interests as well? shit, we're out of luck...

[Professor Go]

As you can tell our forces are not as precise as they might think they are:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3305837.stm

Six kids dead and two adults found dead as well and this is after nine kids were found dead the other day in a strike meant to take out a terrorist, who was never found.


I'm not saying our forces should be accurate everytime, but winning the "hearts and minds" of the Iraqi people is hard when you're killing off their kids and trying to tear down muslim flags/banners - http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/special/iraq/2047251
, then LYING about it and THEN admitting it and trying to play it off. That really makes people want to love you.

Even worse Lt. General William Boykin here:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/981411.asp?0cl=c3

Trying to make this damn fiasco into a holy war. What kind of damn idiots is Bush hiring to make this a successful endeavor?? It's a fight of God vs. Satan?? We are a "Christian Nation" fighting against those who have "empty gods"?? Christian extremists do NOT belong in the US military, although unfortunately, we have one who is our Commander in Chief. Heil Bush.

[Boondock Saint]

man, i read that about boykin and i just thought, 'this man is the LAST man we need leading any military force against anyone.'

by his logic, if you don't believe exactly what HE or fundamentalist christians believe, then you're dead wrong and deserve to be punished for it...here on earth, no less.

anyways, bush sucks. i've proven my points countless times before. any more remarks or questions about him so that either the prof or i can prove you wrong once again? didn't think so...

[Idol Australian]

read michael moore.

[Boondock Saint]

Originally posted by Idol Australian
read michael moore.

i've been a fan of michael moore since i was in middle school, all the way back when TV NATION was on the air...

anyways, al franken's books are perhaps a little funnier to me, only b/c i find his anal retentive attention to proving every bit of research he does completely hilarious (he once called to fact check bill o'reilly's quotes several times a day, just for two or three lines)...

so, now that saddam is captured, does anyone approve more of this president? i'm interested in seeing if anyone has changed their minds over this insignificant/empty victory for the bush administration when everything else is failing so miserably...has anyone been won-over?

[WarAllTheTime]

Wow, what a bunch of liberals. I mean since almost all of the media is liberal you believe everything they say(except like Fox.) it really pisses me off. I'm sorry but if we had never waged war then terrorists or Iraqi's would be on OUR friggin soil. You want PEACE? Jesus Christ, all thats gonna do is bring the war HERE. Are you people that ignorant? Or just friggin stupid? Sorry for getting so mad but I've had a belly-full of this bullsh*t!

[Professor Go]

You probably need to get out of your R.O.T.C uniform and take a nice warm bubble bath, WarAllTheTime. I'm sorry to tell you but Bush has probably created more terrorists with his shitty foreign policies - and what the hell do you mean by Iraqis might be on our soil? Are you insane? You're just the kind of hyper-patriotic, delusional paranoid flag waver this country needs to forget all about our national problems and use war as a reason to finish off grudges and make American corporations very very rich.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SOLDIER! *salute*

[WarAllTheTime]

Originally posted by Professor Go
You probably need to get out of your R.O.T.C uniform and take a nice warm bubble bath, WarAllTheTime. I'm sorry to tell you but Bush has probably created more terrorists with his shitty foreign policies - and what the hell do you mean by Iraqis might be on our soil? Are you insane? You're just the kind of hyper-patriotic, delusional paranoid flag waver this country needs to forget all about our national problems and use war as a reason to finish off grudges and make American corporations very very rich.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SOLDIER! *salute*

So I'm a hyper-patriotic, delusional paranoid flag waver? Wow, now I know what my title's gonna be :p I'm probably not as much as you think I am...I don't support ALL wars, I usually only support it when I think is has a justifiable purpose...It's ok to be a tad bit patriotic...some things DO affect you, even if it doesn't affect you directly...I just don't want our country to fall apart llike Russia did...sounds kinda far'fetched as of now. I'm just thinkin about my children, and their children, and their children and so on and so on...

[Professor Go]

I'm sorry but it does sound very very very very very very farfetched.

But I'm sure you have beautiful children.

[Nigel]

No, I'm not needed as a mod. WILL SOMEONE BREAK THIS UP GOD DAMN IT?!

[MoN]

If there is no arguing, there is no forums. I can't stand when people try to make this place like a prison.

[Jog DMC]

http://www.mopaul.com/images/yourgodsucks.gif

Hehe. But all that aside, I just gotta step up to the plate to defend Boykin a little. The guy has made it clear that he's not fighting Islam, only the extremists, like all other US generals in the Middle East.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1016-01.htm

In his public remarks, Boykin has also said that radical Muslims who resort to terrorism are not representative of the Islamic faith.

He has compared Islamic extremists to "hooded Christians" who terrorized blacks, Catholics, Jews and others from beneath the robes of the Ku Klux Klan.

Yeah, I admit that reference to the God that the Muslim enemies were suppossedly worshipping could send the wrong message, but I think he was only talking about the extremists he was fighting in this case. I think it may be in our best interests for him to keep a lower profile about the whole holy war thing, but if he's a good general, I think it may be a bad idea to ditch him.

[Professor Go]

Where did you get that picture?! It rocks my heathen ass off!

[Jog DMC]

right click and check properties :p . It says the site on the picture, too.

Fine, here's the site: www.mopaul.com .

[Boondock Saint]

warallthetime, what the hell are you babbling about?

there was no justifiable reason for this war. what was it? you're a moron. bush sucks. all hail king bush.

you suck.

how's that mods? like that bashing? you suck too.

[andre]

i don't like him. he's an ignorant war-monger who thinks he can hide behind his "christian" beliefs. christians aren't even supposed to fight wars, so what is he doing killing our troops?

[Professor Go]

It's ok to kill when it's a dirty heathen Muslim apparently. Or if you kill in the name of God. Ain't nothing God loves more than killing in the name of God. [/sarcasm]

[Immortal-JyNxX]

Originally posted by Sean-GCA
Lol many of you know how I feel. I am a die hard Republican! I support Bush 100% except for 1 thing ... this whole legalize ILLEGAL immigrants... I feel stronger border security and a push to export any illegal in the US. The idea of illegal immigrations is an insult to every person who came to this country the LEGAL way

I'm with Sean...Plus I have a strong dislike for gays.

~ditto~

[Professor Go]

I love gays. They're so huggable and cute. Like care bears.

[MoN]

I have a strong dislike for what gays do. It's a religious thing, you know? But even if it wasn't religious I don't think I'd agree with it -- I have a few things that aren't in the Bible I disagree with relating to sexual activities. loz

DUDE CARE BEARS ARE NOT GAY OKAY MAN?!1//

[Professor Go]

LOZls How do u no what gh3yz do!1

[MoN]

i gae

o shat i lin

[Professor Go]

Originally posted by Immortal-JyNxX
I'm with Sean...Plus I have a strong dislike for gays.

~ditto~

It's fun to be proud of hate.

[Immortal-JyNxX]

Not hate dislike.

[MoN]

Dislike =/= hate

PWND (what a weak pwn :()

[Professor Go]

Yes, I'm sure.

[MoN]

I am sure Osei does not hate Ken.....

haha pwnd right?

[Professor Go]

More like "banned" ;)

[MoN]

Okay I think we have to stop or bye-bye thread. :( (I bet Miguel closes it anyway...or maybe Sam...or WG...)

[Wh|tE gUy]

If you want to bash gay people, find an XBOX forum.


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