Ea Developer Statment Not Gcn 1.5

[secretmaker]

OFFICILY STATED BY a wii developer at ea working on madden 16by9 widescreen great graphics wii is uniq i do not agree with gamecube 1.5 wii games shall look amasing LIKE YOU HAVE ALL BEEN TOLD BY NINTENDO A 1000 TIMES revolution now wii will compare on graphics the hole downplaying of the system has al;lways been nintendos way they said the same thing when gamecube was in development listen to the currect people not matt at ign nintendo and honest developers not those hiding behind closed doors saying stuff thats clearly a 360 nintendo haters smear campain

[Nick M-AMN]

First of all:

Officially stated by a Wii developer--EA's studio working on Madden--Wii supports 16x9 widescreen resolution and has great graphics. Wii is unique. I don't agree with the "Gamecube 1.5" claims. Wii games shall look amazing, like Nintendo has said 1,000 times. Wii will definitely compare to the competition with graphics. The whole downplaying of the system has always been Nintendo's way. They said the same thing when Gamecube was in development. Listen to the correct people--honest developers--not the ones hiding behind closed doors saying stuff that's designed to make Xbox 360 look superior and smear Wii's reputation. Don't listen to Matt from IGN Wii, either.

Secretmaker, right now there's been alot of misinformation, rumors, and unclear facts going around about the Wii. I don't think there are very many people out there--outside of Sony/Microsoft devoted loyalists--that want to believe that Wii is only capable of "GC 1.5" graphics. However, we don't really have "real" in-game screenshots of Wii right now to judge by. The Red Steel screens have been confirmed to be touched up by Ubi's art team, so we're not really sure what to expect from the system visually.

As for the alleged smear campaign, I don't think that's going on, either--at least, not from the multiplatform publishers. I just think that developers go from staring at their games featuring Unreal 3 and then head over to Wii and see some sort of significant visual downgrade. Whether or not the downgrade is "GC 1.5," I couldn't tell you, but the contrast from the horsepower consoles to Wii will likely be significant, no matter what you think. The system is low-spec and we've known that from the start. Nintendo has said that 1,000 times, too. Unless the Wii's last major secret is some sort of visual augmentation, it seems that that Wii might not be able to hang with the horsepower consoles visually. If so, it wouldn't be long-term. Wii's graphics will likely hold for one or two years before PS3/X360's GPUs take off. The X360's architecture is already being tapped into and RSX + CELL will carry PS3's visuals far. However, Iwata did say we would say "Wow...."

Don't worry about Wii. Nintendo's undoubtedly making it the star of the show at E3. I'm still excited by it--for me, nothing has changed about the system other than the spelling of it's name. Besides, it's not visuals that make the system, it's gameplay. Ps2 was the weakest system this generation and it's the king of the console war--the library made it king. For Wii, the judging will ultimately lie in the quality of control provided by the Freehand Remote and the quality of the software. Wait until after E3 to judge how Wii stacks up against the competition.

[secretmaker]

you have clearly made that up about ubisoft they are screen shots of the game running wilst gameinformer jurnos were pysicly playing it AS IN GAME IN MOTION STILLS i think ur allso trying to downgrade wii ur self with that coment i dont think ubisoft would be over at game informer editing and art brushing there articals on there power macs THATS A BLATANT LIE red steels screns were red steels screens those saying otherwise are just defending ps3s faked demos with a childish backlash at wii that game loks that good i garante it nintendo does not do lets fake the graphics hype THAT IS SONY cough fmvs cough

[secretmaker]

allso learn about specs you carnt compare laggy pc rams in ps3 and 360 to 1t sram its quick dam quick and your allso forgetting slow dvd drives (poor loadtimes poor data streaming indirect tecturing) against a gamecentric priority drive that nintendo will oviously use in wii data trancfer and streaming vs raw size your directly comparing 2 compleatly differant designs ps3/360 are faked pcs wii is gameconsole centric streaming of data not storage of data theres a ***PING differance

[Shawn]

Secretmaker, please don't double post. Use the edit button on the right hand side of your previous post.

As for my thoughts on this topic: Time will tell

[John35]

I have to agree with secret maker on this one. I don't remember Ubisoft confirming those Red Steel shots being touched up. As a matter of fact, I remember them issuing a statement saying that, in fact, the screens were NOT touched up in any way. And plus, how can you dismiss what the EA guy said? He's seen what the system is capable of.

[secretmaker]

a posts a posts iv stated a fact that fact anous you so your changing a subject as a meens of expressing the fact you dont like facts being expressed the whole point of a forum is to post is it not and im currently upgrading my laptop to broadband it was a mistake SO DONT JUDGE visual disruptor may 9th live with it

[secretmaker]

ubisot have zero power over a magazines editing or picture upgrading allso for ubisoft to admit to delliberatly faking there graphics would be seen as dishonest and people would not buy there games iv never heard such nonsance THAT STATMENT WAS BLATENT PS3 FANBOYING

[Nick M-AMN]

Before you go calling me a liar, the statement about the Red Steel photos being touched up was not my own. It was in a 1UP.com Editor's blog. If you take issue with that statement, don't go taking it out on me. I was unaware that Ubi Soft had ever defended the Red Steel shots, let alone released an official statement.

I'm not dismissing what the EA guy said. All I'm saying is what many have been saying--that Wii is a low-spec system. I don't know what Wii is actually capable of visually--I hope the graphics are amazing--I'm just reiterating what many people in the industry have said judging on the specs Nintendo released. I hope Wii is great--I've been anticipating it's arrival since Nintendo first announced it.

I like Nintendo alot and whole-heartedly support all of their endeavors. I own almost every Nintendo system ever--save VB and GBP. My first system was a Nintendo console (the NES). I'm just trying to analyze the system in coordination with what I know from the industry, not rip it apart. I can't wait to play Wii at E3. Please don't presume me to be a "fanboy" from an opposite camp because I take a more neutral view.

[Tim the Wiz]

Hahaha, the thing is... the shots were "slightly" touched up, man. (As stated above, former-1UP editor Che did confirm this, as well as several other informal industry sources)

Believe me, this is coming from a down-to-earth Nintendo fan. (if such a creature exists) Same thing happens to all of Ubisoft's screens, including those for the 360 and PS3. I can give you one reason off the bat why they practice this: the game isn't on final dev kits yet.

And of course, Ubisoft have the ultimate power over the magazine, if GI didn't want slightly touched up shots, they get no exclusive -- and it's as simple as talking EGM or some other mag into breaking the story.

Oh, and it does pay to be more civil with those ignorant Sonybots/Xtards who simply take utter joy in demoralizing Nintendo fans and the stellar company they, ah, we support... ;)

[thegamecubist]

I love how everyone stop shitting on EA once they announced Madden on Wii.

[Tim the Wiz]

Don't worry. 50/50 chance EA screw up on the exciting new concepts they've talked about and Madden Wii (*giggle*) sucks. Then the hating will begin anew, and all will be as it was.

[John35]

EA still sucks, no matter what platform their games are on.

[Z.E.I.D.A.N]

^They don't suck all the time.

[Tim the Wiz]

Unfortunately, my friend, you are absolutely 100% incorrect. Electronic Arts is a corporation run by soulless executives whose key aim in the videogame market is to achieve a monopoly completely backed up by marketing and marketing alone. To progress to this utopian existence devoid of any waste of liquid assets on quality control, EA will ease the "casual" set into it with decreasing strides of actual effort put into the games. Once they achieve it, game development salaries will go up, games "journalism" will be utterly destroyed and the competition bled away until only EA stands at the forefront of its monolopy. And the dream of a ONE CONSOLE FUTUREtm will begin.

To stop EA's evil plans from being fulfilled: petitions, open flaming threads in forums, myspace blogs calling for EA's death and photoshops comparing the company to the Nazis must be created. There is no time to waste! And as one gamer to another we must realize the telling truth. It is time for drastic measures! It is time to kill! It is time to collect their ****ing heads![/sarcasmn]

EA-haters. This is what you sound like. Please stop.

Your friend.
Tim.

[Lucas]

I don't care about HD, and I don't care about the visual capacity. All I want to widecreen, and there is no excuse because Gamecube could do it. If I have to run Revo.....Wii games on my TV with black bars on the sides, I will be pissed. There is no excuse for the lack of widescreen, because it has nothing to do with HD. They can at least give us that. Somehow though, I doubt it will be mandatory, and only a few token titles will support the feature, with the majority opting out to save a buck.

[John35]

lol, anyway...

How bout' the fact that EA doesn't put out great games and never really has, especially considering how big of a corporation they are and the name they carry? Madden was inferior to ESPN Football, Black is a 6 hour game in total, and the NFSU series was a game purely based around luck. Nothing to do with EA hate, more to do with not liking boastful companies that don't produce the goods. Hope that's easy enough to understand without somebody trying to imply a "deeper meaning".

[secretmaker]

the most anti nintendo sites on web ign 1up gamespy gamespot thats a fact AND HOW WOULD 1UP NO ITS TOUCHED UP ubisoft would not DESTOY the chance of the own product selling that is utter noncence a car manufacturer wouldnt say are cars rust easy or are engines break down then expect sales of the motor vehcles BLATANT JELOUS PS3 FANBOY GOING ON HERE this is ps3 fans trying to do a reverce anti wii graphics comments as some kind of lame fanboy defence of ps3s faked demos and using fmvs as a way to trick the consumer SONY DID THIS WITH PS1 PS2 PS3 THEY do it every time there next m/c is due to come out WE ALL REMEMBER THE OVER THE TOP TEKKEN VIDEOS ANF TOY STORY LIES ABOUT EMOTION ENGINE

[Phillip-AMN]

secretmaker: You're crazy if you think that Wii games will look as good as top-notch 360 and PS3 games.

That said, it's nice to see a developer saying something positive about Wii -- in any capacity. It's always nice. However, the system is still less powerful than competitor's consoles.

[Tim the Wiz]

I agree with all your points. Most ESPN sports franchises from 2K Sports are indeed better than EA franchises (imo), Black was disappointing, and I've always disliked the high pedestal the NFS: U series has been put on, as of late.

However, (and this ain't really pointed at you hotlink, just talking in general) the EA bashing sometimes gets to a level which really just begs the question, is it really worth the effort? I mean, EA does publish some good games (Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath, Fight Night 360, Burnout, etc.), and the immense exaggeration of the company's admittedly inherent evils just begs belief. Sure, they're big and on the whole they don't really rely on quality product for sales, but they are capable of providing good games. And if this relatively unproven team in Canada follows through on their enthusiasm with their A-game effort, you'll see something good. That's all I'm saying.

[secretmaker]

UBISOFT IN GRAPHICS LIE shocker all there games in magazines have faked graphics hahahhahahaha iv heard it all ZEALOTS

[Hottotty]

Secretmaker, relax. All your posts sound so angry, like you laugh until your head comes off and swallow til you burst.

It's just games, man. Like for fun, you know?

Oh, and Wii will be weaker than the other two, but if you don't have HD it probably won't matter too much anyway. That's what I think.

[secretmaker]

HOW CAN PS3/360 BE TOP NOTCH THE CONTROLLERS hold back and restrict gaming when compared to freehand your seriouly stating a out dated 20 yr old interface can compare to a 3d gyro control system THE HOLLY GRAIL OF VR IS CLOSE VERY CLOSE shuuuush dont tell its comming from NINTENDO visual disruption 9th may 2006

[Vinny-AMN]

Guys, secretmaker is CUBEBOY. Isn't it obvious? Just ignore him. He's a loser who is blinded.

[John35]

I thought Secret Maker was Cubeboy, but then somebody said DSManiac was Cubeboy. I'm confused. Is this a MoN situation all over again?

[RivenWinner]

I thought Secret Maker was Cubeboy, but then somebody said DSManiac was Cubeboy. I'm confused. Is this a MoN situation all over again?


Jeff said that cubeboy is both of them LOL

[MikeWolfskin]

EA still sucks, no matter what platform their games are on.


Word for word my brother :D

P.S um 1Up sucks and has been prove lier's so Meany times or just plain wrong and is not the official word in the end so um yeah!Ubysoft did defend that Red Steal was not touched up game shoots!If it is touched up who cares it will still look great but I'll go by what they told us "Ubysoft" "NOT TOUCHED UP"
Because i have never trust lame O 1Up. Also People should stop he is not cubeboy and if he is big deal he makes a good point at times.

[secretmaker]

hotlink agreed im no EA FAN leave that to sony zealots its just that a fact beats forum bull 1.5 a gamecubes power utter LIES faked red steel graphics UTTER LIES thats kill zone 2 boys and you KNOW IT ubisoft in are graphics stink we fake them shocker somehow i dout it in game footage is wot we seen stills of FACT

[Treason]

I have been in a debate about this on another forum, so lets talk about it again. The Wii will have lower specs. get use to that fact. It will be underpowered. Can you get use to that?

Ok, I assume you are. Now get use to this fact: It doesn't matter. Nintendo knows that you can get the same effect with a low-spec console as you can with a high-tech console. Current gen proves that. The PS2 graphics look identical to the GCN. Gamecube looks just as good as Xbox. Hell, i would say RE4 looks close to the Xbox 360 -- as in not every game looks super good. And About Red Steel and even what the EA guy said -- they don't know much. In fact, they are not running the game(s) they have in full power -- no matter what IGN Wii say's. Yes, IGN has a Wii-Wii now (lol).

That said, I believe that will soon not be true. Developers will need time to finalize their games for release. They will need the final chips and dev kits. And the NEC has all ready sent the -- what was it? the RAM? -- and I am sure IBM and ATi are close to be finished.

With all that said, it doesn't matter. Nintendo wants to go mainstream, and no body in the mainstream will know the difference between any of the games. HD wont matter to them, because that does not add to the fun factor. Just the visual beauty. Nintendo knows this. The Nintendo DS was a test. Games like Feel the Magic and Brain Age and Nintendogs are perfect examples of testing the mainstream market. And Nintendo wants to spend the money on their input device -- not their specs -- because they know that will be the selling point, and that if it doesn't work, then they are a duck in deep water.

And once again, with all of THAT said...there is still more. There is one more secret. And I bet you it has to do with the hardware, not with the input device. Although I believe there are many secrets to The Wii we do not know about just yet. Nintendo Now (http://nintendonow.e-mpire.com/index.php?categoryid=6&m_articles_articleid=3635) That article describes the reasons I believe this.

And...thats all folks.

[John35]

^Nice post there Treason. Well summed up.

[Link]

Treason, welcome to the forums. I can see that you know what you're talking about, and I hope you stay a while.

[cubeenigma]

Personally I find this good news since EA always tries...nvm..their games look okay half the time -_-

[Tim the Wiz]

*sigh* I really did try. If you don't want to believe the screens were touched up for press, as most, if not all screenshots from the very same company are -- then be my guest. In any case, Red Steel will look better than the screens in motion, so I guess you guys aren't missing much.

[Treason]

*sigh* I really did try. If you don't want to believe the screens were touched up for press, as most, if not all screenshots from the very same company are -- then be my guest. In any case, Red Steel will look better than the screens in motion, so I guess you guys aren't missing much.

I don't know if they were touch up or not, and it doesn't care. Because I am sure Red Steel will look beautiful. And I more excited about the controlls then the graphics, so yea.

And thanks for the nice comments, Link and hotlink (whats with the Links liking me?) and I think I will stay. I enjoy communities were its fun to debate and you don't get bashed. :)

[Hottotty]

I'm with Jeff on that one.