New Nintendo Second Party...

[Freak of Kane]

I got this from cubed-3.co.uk...

"According to C3 Affiliate GameCube Network, a new Nintendo Second Party has been formed in Tokyo, which consists of ex-members of Square Enix, Capcom, Konami, Sega and Namco - all of whom have been lured away by none-other than mild-mannered Shigeru Miyamoto!

The company is currently working on two games."

Hmmm. I wonder what's in the works. I'm thinking some kind of big RPG. But then again, I'm not into RPGs much so hopefully not.

[Steve-AMN]

I am not suprised, people are starting to realize you can't just put crap games out there anymore. Nintendo is ready to rise from its ashes...just you wait...I bet in this next generation Nintendo will suprise everyone...maybe even us too :P

[Eddz]

Great, I like the way that the guys from the top-notch developers are backing Nintendo.

Soon the developers like Namco, Square-Enix, Sega and Capcom will have their goodness soaked out and be pumping out PS2 titles just not worth buying..

[Steve-AMN]

Well the creator of Resident Evil (I believe that was the game series like 99% sure and oh god don't ask for a name at this hour) says he hates sony and thier playstation and that he won't make games for them anymore. Hence part of the reason Gamecube got the Exclusive RE4. I don't know if this is a rumor or not so take what I am about to say as a rumor to be safe

<RUMOR> All Resident Evil games will be Nintendo exclusives </end RUMOR>

I can't remember if I read that as a fact or not so just take it as rumor.

[Eddz]

Resi 0-3 are definately not 'Cube exclusives. The toned-up versions may be, but then there's Code Veronica and Dead Aim which haven't seen a 'Cube date yet..

[Steve-AMN]

sorry I should have said all NEW resident evil games...Dead Aim by the way is not considered a true Resident Evil game and hence would not fall under the exclusive right.

[Steve-AMN]

Actually Code Veronica is out for the Cube already

[Eddz]

Capcom still want money, whether they like Sony or not. They can make even more cash on a ported game. I would like to see the Resi games as Ninty-exclusive, but it's just not practical.

[Steve-AMN]

Actually Eddz I have to go along with Denis Dyack on this one.

He is the president for Silicon Knights for those of you who don't know. He says that game developers are realizing that you need quality behind your games, you just can't do the same old crap and ported crap that everyone has gotten accustomed to do. He said that there would be a Videogame crash if things kept going as they are. That is why he believes Nintendo will gain huge support in the near future. He says he sees and talks with other developers that are starting to realize that to make money, they are gonna hve to put quality not quantity back into thier games. Man he actually goes on for a lot more then that but what he said is something I have always believed. He claims specifically companies like Capcom and Konami have "seen the light". So what does that mean?

Nintendo. Nintendo is the ONLY console out there that cares about quality. Microsoft and Sony could care less. Anyways, I am too tired to go on with what Dyack stated. But if Capcom truly has "seen the light" as Dyack has claimed, then they would want to be with Nintendo as exclusives.

And keep in mind, why is it not popular to be with Nintendo? Cause they don't make as much money? well that isn't true, Nintendo makes the most money actually.

Also, once all the good games and exclusives are on a certain system, where do you think the gamers will go? Nintendo would get rid of that Kiddy image if all of the sudden the only place you can get all the great latest games are on the Gamecube.

Man I am rambelling at this point...time to end this post for me

[Eddz]

I see what you are talking about, but for this generation I feel the porting is still going to be in action. Didn't Capcom recently announce the possibility of a PS2 Viewtiful Joe?

Right now the money is in porting. This is going to change for the next systems, as each company has a "fresh start".
At that point companies like Capcom can start developing exclusives for Nintendo, as there should be an even amount of consoles out there.

The 'Cube will undoubtedly get even more exclusives as time progresses, but for the moment Capcom are going to continue developing multi-format/ported games.

[Steve-AMN]

I didn't say Capcom is exclusive Nintendo. I said that if they had seen the light like Dyack claims then they would WANT to be. So far all the new Resident Evil games are for Gamecube/Nintendo only.

The PS2 Viewtiful Joe RUMOR was just that, a rumor, the screen shots were doctored by a PS2 Fanboy. There are no plans to port Viewtiful Joe for any other system.

[Eddz]

I think we should wait until the release of the new consoles to see whether companies like Capcom will start developing top exclusives. There is no point in Capcom releasing Gamecube exclusives yet as the number of PS2s out there clearly outnumber the amount of Gamecubes.

I'm looking forwards to seeing what they have prepared at E3.. Hopefully they bring the PS2 and Gamecube an even amount of titles. And hopefully all the PS2 ones will belong in tat baskets in GAME stores worldwide ;)

[Steve-AMN]

Actually I would put money down that you will not see another TRUE Resident Evil game on a Sony system again. The system sucks, the directior and a couple of programers for Resident Evil say the PS2 sucks and like I said, I am 99% sure it was the director of Resident Evil that said he would never release another game for the Sony system.

Now before you say something about it, I didn't say CAPCOM said that, I said the director of the Resident Evil games said that.

[Eddz]

Ok, ok.. Time will tell. I would love to see all the Resi games on Nintendo only!

However, it's Capcom's Production/Executive team that decide what the developers do..

[Steve-AMN]

Actually that is not true...think about good ole' Shiggy...while he is an extream case of a director in control, other directors share power too.

[Eddz]

They have their decisions but it's the executives who give them the goahead.

Mr Miyamoto-san only has such power because his decisions have been critical of the company's existance.

[Steve-AMN]

Do you not think Resident Evil series is extreamly important to Capcoms Existance?

[Eddz]

It is, but Capcom do have other projects..

[Steve-AMN]

Yeah but Resident Evil is probably thier most lucrative franchise...the fact that they have made the deal that they did with Nintendo shows a lot of good signs all pointing towards Nintendo.

[blablamax]

Mmmm and back to the topic. It is a great news to get that support, I hope we wil se a game of this group on E3 and on the Cube ... another AAA title for the collection!! :D

[Eddz]

Yes, either for GCN or for N5..

[Cooolcorey]

Or the DS?

[blablamax]

Yes ... as the rumor said..Myamoto works on game named Buzz for the DS...so maybe they work on it two..but I prefer they dont for my own good :D

[BigBroMario]

I too heard that the director of RE games hates Sony. If I'm correct, he said he will never create another game for a Sony system if he has the choice. Also, I believe his name is Shinji Mikami.

[OutlawAdidas]

Shinji Mikami, thats him. He's one of my favorite developers...next to Miyamoto of course. I can't wait for the day when every company leaves Sony completely. I can only imagine!

[Steve-AMN]

Well I don't think Capcom would ever TOTALLY stop making for Sony, I believe that one day they will make all the good games for Nintendo and then port crap over to Sony if not just give them the crappy games.

Microsoft and Sony will see what happens when you care little about gamers and more about profit. Eventually gamers will come around even if it will take awhile.

[prime_timer]

Yes Shinji Mikami has said he will never make a game for ANY Sony platform ever again.

Wow that development team has a lot of guys from a lot of high profile development houses. hopefully they can fuse together ideas and create a maasterpeice

[Steve-AMN]

See the great thing about Nintendo being where they are now is that most everyone doesn't see what they are doing behind thier backs and in front of thier face. What support for the Gamecube??? haha that's right, there is none cause Nintendo put them all on the N5.

[enediol]

i'm impressed with Silicon Knights and their work on Eternal Darkness and I trust they only do put out quality games and theyre easily one of my favorite developers



i want another star wars game! these guys should do that!

[Steve-AMN]

I have learned a lot about Silicon Knights recently and I am impressed with them sooooo much. They are truly Little Nintendo :P

[Wh|tE gUy]

Seems like we may finally get a really good Japanese second party. Image an action-RPG with sporting mini games and Konami mentioned in the credits (not sure what they would add to the game)

[Eddz]

Upon the launch of the N5 it looks like Capcom will be developing exclusively for Nintendo..

[Steve-AMN]

Well nothing is confirmed and even I don't think Capcom will be exclusive Nintendo...but I do think Ninty will get all the love.

[Freak of Kane]

Wow. There are some pretty extreme views here. And I call myself a fanboy. I wouldn't like to see these companies stop developing for other systems. The competition makes Nintendo better. I don't want to go back to the time when Nintendo runs everything - charging developers insane royalties etc. etc. Maybe they won't do that this time round - who knows. But when you're the most powerful...greed often steps in.

[Steve-AMN]

Okay, Totally different times here Freak. Back when Nintendo was number one and had FULL reign of the video games was the NES. That was a time when video games where still making a comeback and still considered to be a shakey market. EVERYONE needed to make as much money as they could at that time.

Now I don't know if Nintendo charged INSANE royalties and before I believe that I would like to see some kind of proof leading to that comment. (So where ever you got that idea Freak please let me know cause I would like to see it myself).

Now, Nintendo has the ability to relax when it comes to money, for now they have a huge War Chest and they are doing a good job keeping it full.

Also, Nintendo Greedy? I highly doubt that. As a matter of fact the thought makes me almost puke. If Nintendo was gonna be greedy they wouldn't stick to the quality that has harmed them in the past few years. Nintendo will come out on top sometime, it is just a matter of time. But Greedy? Never.

[prime_timer]

Originally posted by enediol
i'm impressed with Silicon Knights and their work on Eternal Darkness and I trust they only do put out quality games and theyre easily one of my favorite developers



i want another star wars game! these guys should do that!

Factor 5 does our Star Wars games...... and they're doing the next Pilot Wings right now.

[Steve-AMN]

<does a dance and sings> I can't wait...I can't wait...I can't wait.

[Shoxx]

I wonder what these 2 new games are... can't wait to find out.

[Wh|tE gUy]

I dont like the fact that they are making 2 games simultaneously. Shouldnt a new developement house spend all their resources into their very first game in order to make a name for themselves?

If they just made good games they will be another 2nd party with a familiar name but no real association. You know, similar to Camelot but opposite of Retro or Silikon Knights

[Steve-AMN]

Who is making 2 games simultaneously?

[Wh|tE gUy]

Didnt the news update say this new company is working on 2 titles at the same time?

[Steve-AMN]

ah I thought you were making reference to Retro or Silicon Knights.

[Freak of Kane]

I said that based on history and what I've read, Steve. Why were third parties so eager to jump ship to PlayStation? Cheaper royaltie fees, better media. Sure we could bitch about load times, but nobody really seemed to care. Didn't Nintendo also restrict the Mortal Kombat games? Blood or something I think was green, not sure. Stopping developers freely doing what they want isn't good. Not sure if it's true or not, but apparantly, there was a lot of debate about the blood in Goldeneye.

[Monkeylord]

Originally posted by Freak of Kane
Didn't Nintendo also restrict the Mortal Kombat games? Blood or something I think was green, not sure. Stopping developers freely doing what they want isn't good. Not sure if it's true or not, but apparantly, there was a lot of debate about the blood in Goldeneye.

The SNES release of the original Mortal Kombat had the blood changed to sweat (basically it was grey), but all releases after that (MKII and up) saw the return of full on gore. Lush!

[LucifersLegend]

You know what do back to the topic, I don't even think that they did form a new second party team nevermind one that is working on 2 NEW games. That is a little hard to swallow from a company that never NEVER goes out and buys out new companies(::cough::Microsoft::cough::).

[bamf226]

Originally posted by Nintendo Steve
Well nothing is confirmed and even I don't think Capcom will be exclusive Nintendo...but I do think Ninty will get all the love.

I think you will see companies gaining exclusive studios more as the next generation of consoles come out. Sony, MS and NOA all want good sales and be at the top of the heap. Problem is, when games come out that extend to multiple platforms, the encourages no one to go out and buy a particular system. As the new systems come out Exclusivity contracts will become more common, or at the very least contracts for a game to be exclusive to a console for several months before being released for the remaining consoles.

[Ninjazn]

Thats the thing with Sony. They did that for Prince of Persia and Beyond Good and Evil in Europe. They gobbled up the exclusivity rights for the game. Now after months of waiting the titles will finally launch on the GC and Xbox. Nintendo needs to do more of that.

[blablamax]

I agree with you,Spartan 04. And the need more 3rd support and to make exlusivenes of titles and series like RE.