Same-Sex Marriage

[Boondock Saint]

hey guys, should gay marriage be allowed? when you select your answer, give a response. remember to actually THINK before you say whatever comes to your mind first...

i say yes, b/c religion shouldn't be able to tell people who can love one another, and who or who cannot be fit to raise children, or benefit from having a partner to live their lives with.

this ideal of "it's christian/not christian and therefore is right/wrong" has got to stop.

if we were to go along with majority religious ideals, we'd all do what the muslims want us to do, b/c they're the world's majority anyway. so, chew on that a bit.

[dopefish]

I don't believe gay marriage should be allowed, but a same-sex partnership without the word marriage I would be for. I always see marriage as a union between male and female.

If two people of the same sex want to get "married" call it a partnership and recognize it legally. My opinion of course.

I am a Christian but probably unlike many, I'm liberal. So as I do see something wrong with it, I could care less if that's they way they want to live their life. Whatever makes 'em happy :p

[Professor Go]

I definitely do. And even if it isn't called "marriage" at least the allowance of equal rights to gay couples that match their hetero counterparts. I am all for it and hope the US takes the nod from Canada to embrace equal rights and stop discriminating based on sexual orientation.

[McBizzel]

All those liberal ideals Matt was spitting out are total bullshite, the only reason he says yes, and I mean the ONLY reason, is because he wants me to propose. You can't fool me Matt, you can't fool me. --~

[Santo]

Personally I don't have a problem with gay people. If they want to get married, they should be able to... it's not up to me or you, it's up to them.

[Wh|tE gUy]

Personally I think it is up to the church. If there is a church willing to wed two people of the same sex then that is fine by me.

[Professor Go]

But people don't even need churches to get married.

[Santo]

Not everybody gets married in a church, regardless of gender.

[Sean-AMN]

as princeable i feel marriage is to be between a man and a woman... but I do not oppose partnership ats that would allow people dating or in a relationship to visit the other if they are in a hospitol or stuff like this...

[Boondock Saint]

Originally posted by Wh|tE gUy
Personally I think it is up to the church. If there is a church willing to wed two people of the same sex then that is fine by me.

this goes back to the old argument about whether it's an institution of religion or the state, and i say it's of the state. after all, no matter how many times you're married in front of god, what do you always have to do next? go to the courthouse and get a license saying that your marriage is LEGAL.

people don't have to have church to get married, so why can't they have a legal marriage, without the church?

[Sean-AMN]

I feel it doesnt matter bout church and state im saying that marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman

[Professor Go]

I can see where Sean is coming from, although I think many conservatives think that gay couples who have "civil ceremonies" get enough benefits from that, when the benefits don't come close to what hetero couples receive, including seeing your partner in the hospital, not being able to make them legal if they are foreigners, right-to-die responsibilities, and many other financial benefits that come with a legal hetero marriage.

[Jaga]

I'm not with gay marrages. You know it makes us (the united states) look bad. i never hear anything about other countries having guys go with guys or anything.

guys with guys also causes alot of disease which can spread realitivly quickley like through blood or saliva

if for example if some guy thats gay sticks his gum under a table and another person accedently touches it and then eats something with his hands on the food then hes gonna be infected too...

[Boondock Saint]

Originally posted by Jaga
I'm not with gay marrages. You know it makes us (the united states) look bad. i never hear anything about other countries having guys go with guys or anything.

guys with guys also causes alot of disease which can spread realitivly quickley like through blood or saliva

if for example if some guy thats gay sticks his gum under a table and another person accedently touches it and then eats something with his hands on the food then hes gonna be infected too...

ok, jaga, that's the most completely ignorant post i've ever SEEN on these boards. and yes, i'm using the term ignorant very seriously here. first, let's look at your arguments:

so the US is the only country in the world with gay people? i don't think so. in fact, homosexuality is not region-specific, nor time specific. it has been around since the beginning of mankind... saying that legalized gay marriage would make the US look bad is simply stupid.

secondly, disease is now a punishment for homosexuals? please tell me you don't actually believe this bupkiss...there are all kinds of diseases you can contract that you don't have to be homosexual in order to do so...INCLUDING AIDS!

which brings me to your final point about gay guys giving people disease through a piece of gum left lying around...this scenario first assumes that only gay people have aids, and therefore are the only ones that can spread it. aids isn't gender-specific, nor is it sexuality-specific...there are just as many non-gays that have aids or hiv as gays.

your entire argument is prepostorous...by your logic two heterosexual people shouldn't be allowed to be married b/c they too could have disease to spread to others...the logic here is extremely flawed. your post is quite ignorant, and i encourage you to research something before you make stupid claims about it...

[MAX]

Originally posted by Jaga
I'm not with gay marrages. You know it makes us (the united states) look bad. i never hear anything about other countries having guys go with guys or anything.

guys with guys also causes alot of disease which can spread realitivly quickley like through blood or saliva

if for example if some guy thats gay sticks his gum under a table and another person accedently touches it and then eats something with his hands on the food then hes gonna be infected too...

LOL, that is a joke right? I swear that was taken straight out of the 1920's.

This stuff completely enrages me. Maybe if Bush would spend more money on his failed "Leave No Child Behind" plan, we wouldn't get stupid ignorant posts like that. It's sad to see that society has bashed into our heads that it's ok to be like this towards someone else, simply based on who they fall in love with. Who is it hurting, really. If I got married to another guy right now, who would it effect? Nobody. Why do people put so much emphasis on marriage being between a man and a woman, when it should be about the relationship betwee two people and if they are in love and commited. What is the main reason people still have a medieval mindset regarding this? It's mainly religion. Organized religion places huge pressure on politicians, and they can't stand the thought of gays getting married because it's an abomination of everything in which their pitifully weak minds believe. Naturally the Republicans are all too eager to go to bat, so at least one major party is in support of banning gay rights all together. There's no doubt gays will take two steps back for every step forward, but eventually they'll win. Ignorance cannot hold its ground much longer, I feel.


And for those that think they are proving a point by using things from the bible to justify intolerance and promote ignorance, please feel free to read this.

http://www.truluck.com/html/the_bible_and_homosexuality.html

If "God" is pure love... how can he be anything but?

[Lovebird]

hahahahalmaololololol...wow jaga...my respect for you and how intelligent i think you are just plummeted...i think he's heither 6 years old, or 80 years old....that's the only explination other than he's joking....lmao

but any way...haha..ahem...seriously, there's nothing wrong with it, it's not for you to decide unless you're homosexual and you want to get married, by saying no to them getting married, you're saying that they shouldn't get health benefits from married couples and whatnot. that's no different then saying black people can;t get married, or whit poeple ca't get married, it's simply racist and if you say that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to get married then you should be ashamed of yourself. are homosexuals any diffent thenn you or me or him or her or watever? no, we're all people and we should all be treated equal. who says it's not right? who's to say that it shouldn't be? who are you to say that two people in love cannot express their love in the way they'd like to. it's frigging stupid. but fine, disagree, but it's not you getting married, it doesn't directly effect you so why do you care? do you honestly care if it's not you or someone you know directly? of course you don't and don't lie about it! man, it jsut sickens me how homophobic america is, which is why i want to move out as soon as i can. man, my mom's friend, went to go give blood last year, and they wouldn't let him cause he's gay. it makes no sense, it doesn't effect his blood if he's gay, it just means he's gay. plain and simple, nothing more nothing less. but if you still disagree with me. LOOK OUT HE'S GOT THE GAY!! AHH! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! so don't talk to me or touch me or you might catch the gay. boogity boogity boogity. i've been on these forums for a while, and i think that it's safe to say most people here like me or respect me in some way, but because i'm gay.(yes i am), does that change anyhting? no. i'm still patrick mugan who hates ps2 and kinda likes xbox and hopes the psp fails and who is good friends with primetimer and talk to monkeylord sometimes but hasn't talked to nigel in a while. i'm still me and they're still them. it doesn't change them completely, it doesn't change me completely. it's no big deal, really. it doesn't force you to pay more taxes, does it? it doesn't make your life more stressful, does it? no. so wha's wrong with it? if someone could tell me an answer that makes sense i'd LOVE to hear it. but make sure youre ten feet away from me so you don't catch the gay.

[Professor Go]

Holy *hit, Jaga, where do you live, Mulberry circa 1954?

Maybe he was joking.. :scared:

[MAX]

Originally posted by PatrickMugan
hahahahalmaololololol...wow jaga...my respect for you and how intelligent i think you are just plummeted...i think he's heither 6 years old, or 80 years old....that's the only explination other than he's joking....lmao

but any way...haha..ahem...seriously, there's nothing wrong with it, it's not for you to decide unless you're homosexual and you want to get married, by saying no to them getting married, you're saying that they shouldn't get health benefits from married couples and whatnot. that's no different then saying black people can;t get married, or whit poeple ca't get married, it's simply racist and if you say that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to get married then you should be ashamed of yourself. are homosexuals any diffent thenn you or me or him or her or watever? no, we're all people and we should all be treated equal. who says it's not right? who's to say that it shouldn't be? who are you to say that two people in love cannot express their love in the way they'd like to. it's frigging stupid. but fine, disagree, but it's not you getting married, it doesn't directly effect you so why do you care? do you honestly care if it's not you or someone you know directly? of course you don't and don't lie about it! man, it jsut sickens me how homophobic america is, which is why i want to move out as soon as i can. man, my mom's friend, went to go give blood last year, and they wouldn't let him cause he's gay. it makes no sense, it doesn't effect his blood if he's gay, it just means he's gay. plain and simple, nothing more nothing less. but if you still disagree with me. LOOK OUT HE'S GOT THE GAY!! AHH! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! so don't talk to me or touch me or you might catch the gay. boogity boogity boogity. i've been on these forums for a while, and i think that it's safe to say most people here like me or respect me in some way, but because i'm gay.(yes i am), does that change anyhting? no. i'm still patrick mugan who hates ps2 and kinda likes xbox and hopes the psp fails and who is good friends with primetimer and talk to monkeylord sometimes but hasn't talked to nigel in a while. i'm still me and they're still them. it doesn't change them completely, it doesn't change me completely. it's no big deal, really. it doesn't force you to pay more taxes, does it? it doesn't make your life more stressful, does it? no. so wha's wrong with it? if someone could tell me an answer that makes sense i'd LOVE to hear it. but make sure youre ten feet away from me so you don't catch the gay.

You're my new personal hero....well.... you AND boondock...

[Lovebird]

don't see me like that, i speak nothing but truth....but i'm still waiting for that good reason not to allow homosexual marriages....anyone?.....anyone......Bueler, bueler.....lol, if that's how it's spealt

[McBizzel]

Dude, are we even living in the same country? BUBBLE GUM! THAT'S why!

HAHAHA, my favorite part was that's why they shouldn't MARRY! Hahahahahaha, hahahahahaha, it all makes sense now. oh, oh man.

I was thinking that he must be like 10 years old when I heard that. Classic. --~

[Professor Go]

Wow Patrick that was heartfelt. Now if the people who voted "no" would only speak up. Bueller, Bueller?! ;) LOL

[Lovebird]

lmao...proffessor...you always have the best sig....good man, good man.....but dude, you know they ain't got crap, but if they are dumb, they might attempt to argue their cases....if you can even dignify it as a "case"....

[Professor Go]

I think if they did, the entire case would be based on a religious viewpoint.

And thank you, I like my sig too :) and you can also buy:

http://www.mezco.net/productimages/aod/aod-eash.gif

and

http://www.mezco.net/productimages/aod/aod-bog.gif

from http://www.mezco.net/products.asp?pline=aod

But that' way off-topic. ;)

[Silliw 2]

Prof, you shoud make the sig text " Hail to the King, baby." One of my favorite lines...just after "This...Is My Boomstick!" I love shouting that out in Counter Strike right before I 12-Gage a guy in his face.

[Lovebird]

not completely, you see professor, those who voted "no" must think homosexuals look like the bog witch and evil ash...hahahaa...jk

[Professor Go]

Originally posted by Silliw 2
Prof, you shoud make the sig text " Hail to the King, baby." One of my favorite lines...just after "This...Is My Boomstick!" I love shouting that out in Counter Strike right before I 12-Gage a guy in his face.

Silliw, as we both know there are tons of quotable quotes from those movies, they'll probably change once or twice a day :D - And I like the line "Yo, she-bitch! Let's go."

[Lovebird]

Bueller, Bueller? hehehe

[Boondock Saint]

i love that line as well...i think it's hilarious to say 'she-bitch'...

patrick...don't YOU look like the bog witch though? or at least evil ash...i mean, if homosexuality isn't evil, what IS?

i think, though...that you really have to look to mcbizzel's analysis of jaga when you say you want to know why there can never be gay marriage...and the answer is bubble gum. sticky, used, discarded under a table, bubble gum.

man...that's just too laughable. i can't even keep a straight face when typing it.

[David85]

I say yes, but I'm slightly biased considering I am. I have had this agruement about 100 times in the last few months living in Mass and all. But all I have heard against it is 1. call it somethnig different or 2. the same bull people said 35 years ago with interracial marriage. I sure hope people now a days don't have a problem with that, and if you don't then you should have no problems with gay marriages.

[Boondock Saint]

the sad thing is, david, that there are still more than a few people (especially where i live, i can't speak for the rest of the country) who DO have a problem with interracial marriage...not so many as gay marriage, but i live in the bible belt as well, and here, if it's not christian, it ain't right.

[MAX]

people who use the bible to make a case against gay issues make me want to .... kick a kitten....

THE USE OF THE BIBLE TO CONDEMN LESBIANS AND GAYS VIOLATES SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLES OF TRANSLATION AND INTERPRETATION AND IS ACADEMICALLY UNSOUND, INDEFENSIBLE, IRRESPONSIBLE, AND IGNORANT!

[Wh|tE gUy]

Ok, let me ask another question in relation to the whole homosexual discussion:

Do you think that people are born gay or is it the result of something?

Personally, I believe it is the result of a traumatic event for a few reasons. First off, biologically speaking the point to ANY organisms existance is to reproduce, thus keeping the population strong and alive. If a species/organism cannot reproduce it can be viewed as weak or defective. If you take away the ability (or in this case, the desire) to reproduce, the species becomes extinct.

But ofcourse, humans are not simplistic creatures. We are complex beings with multiple emotions, thus leading to my other reasoning

Being homosexual is an alteration to the standard sexual desire, a modification to the libido. Name any other instance similar to this that is NOT the result of something. In this sense homosexuality and a simple fetish are of the same vein. No one is born addicted to S&M or with foot fetishes. No one is born a pediphile or necrophile either. I do not mean to compare homosexuals to pediphiles, there are VAST emotional and moral differences. I am just stating that I believe there are some similarities to be found between someone who prefers someone of their own sex and someone who prefers something else when it comes to sex

(hope i didnt come off as too much of a homophobe or biggot or whatever)
What are your thoughts?

[MAX]

Originally posted by Wh|tE gUy
Ok, let me ask another question in relation to the whole homosexual discussion:

Do you think that people are born gay or is it the result of something?

Personally, I believe it is the result of a traumatic event for a few reasons. First off, biologically speaking the point to ANY organisms existance is to reproduce, thus keeping the population strong and alive. If a species/organism cannot reproduce it can be viewed as weak or defective. If you take away the ability (or in this case, the desire) to reproduce, the species becomes extinct.

But ofcourse, humans are not simplistic creatures. We are complex beings with multiple emotions, thus leading to my other reasoning

Being homosexual is an alteration to the standard sexual desire, a modification to the libido. Name any other instance similar to this that is NOT the result of something. In this sense homosexuality and a simple fetish are of the same vein. No one is born addicted to S&M or with foot fetishes. No one is born a pediphile or necrophile either. I do not mean to compare homosexuals to pediphiles, there are VAST emotional and moral differences. I am just stating that I believe there are some similarities to be found between someone who prefers someone of their own sex and someone who prefers something else when it comes to sex

(hope i didnt come off as too much of a homophobe or biggot or whatever)
What are your thoughts?

My thoughts... Well... I believe it can be a factor of both biology and environment. However, to say that it is similar to a fetish that someone developes would be a pretty uneducated remark. who is to say that heterosexual sex is the standard? The same people that said black people were inferior? The people that are behind organized religion? Yes, the biological need to procreate is embedded in every living organism, as well as a thing called "attraction". Different (simpler) organisms use different techniques.. colors, flying patterns, mating calls. Thus we come to a thing called "natural selection" which I'm not about to go into. I've seen plenty of dogs, and cats, and other animals trying to mate with the same sex. human beings have feelings, and desires, and a lot of other things.. i was never traumatized as a child, yet, I still prefer men. so I don't think that every gay person was traumatized is a good argument... this is really babbling post.. there is a friend at the door and it's like 10 degrees out... I'll post more later

[Professor Go]

Do you think that people are born gay or is it the result of something?[/b]

Personally, I believe it is the result of a traumatic event for a few reasons. First off, biologically speaking the point to ANY organisms existance is to reproduce, thus keeping the population strong and alive. If a species/organism cannot reproduce it can be viewed as weak or defective. If you take away the ability (or in this case, the desire) to reproduce, the species becomes extinct.

Well first off (and I think you alluded to this), gay people can reproduce just fine. That is they absolutely have the ability to reproduce, but do not have the orientation that makes them want to copulate with the opposite sex. The plumbing works, but not in the same way. Even with the existence of homosexuals, there is no way for the human race to fail, because of the existence of heterosexuals. In fact, homosexuality, in a way, cuts down overpopulation since there is no way for a girl to get a girl pregnant or a man to get a man pregnant. This also doesn't mean in any way homosexuals cannot form familial bonds or have prosperous families of their own.

As most gay/queer people report, they had "feelings" for the same sex from a very young age. So then comes the argument of nature versus nurture, and you suggest there is a "trauma" which "creates" a homosexual - which some believe is caused by molestation, an overbearing father, overbearing mother, overbearing pets, neglect, physical abuse, seeing grandma naked on accident, whatever.. as far as I know there is no conclusive study to prove that, and there are similar traumatic events that have happened to heterosexuals that didn't "turn them gay".

So that leaves you to of course try to conclude logically for yourself whether it is nature or nurture - and since there is no scientific close-to-widely-accepted data that proves that gay people are "created" by traumatic events, perhaps you can look to the gay community itself (and the medical community) who insist that homosexual feelings are a trait that is present from the earliest period of life.

But ofcourse, humans are not simplistic creatures. We are complex beings with multiple emotions, thus leading to my other reasoning

Being homosexual is an alteration to the standard sexual desire, a modification to the libido. Name any other instance similar to this that is NOT the result of something. In this sense homosexuality and a simple fetish are of the same vein. No one is born addicted to S&M or with foot fetishes. No one is born a pediphile or necrophile either. I do not mean to compare homosexuals to pediphiles, there are VAST emotional and moral differences. I am just stating that I believe there are some similarities to be found between someone who prefers someone of their own sex and someone who prefers something else when it comes to sex

Unfortunately you're defining homosexuals through sexual activity. Pedophilia and necrophilia (or for that matter sexual attractions to leather, sports mascots or Princess Peach) are not orientations - that is to say, men and women who practice these "fetishes" are not born wanting to have relations with dead people and children, they are adult psychological fetishes that are defined as a classically conditioned need for a fetish item - that would mean that for gays, other gay people are "fetish items" and I like to think that for gay people, lovers and lifemates are more than fetish items.

In fact, and it would be hard for you to understand, homosexuals are not simply defined by their sexual activities but also defined by deeper core feelings and acts including love, jealousy and intellectual attraction to the same gender. Gays are not just sexual beings, just as heterosexuals are not defined by their sexual activity. If you were paralyzed or could no longer perform sex, would you still consider yourself heterosexual? Of course you would, because you are attracted to and have the capacity to fall in love with a woman. Same with gay people - they should be defined by more than a sexual act.

(hope i didnt come off as too much of a homophobe or biggot or whatever)
What are your thoughts?

I don't think you did, in fact, I sort of understand how your logic could lead you in that path. Although I myself don't understand how a straight guy can ever be with a woman because I don't have the capacity, or any need whatsoever to form a sexual or lasting loving bond with a female. But since society and the media show hetero couples at every single turn, of course I am made to believe that it's the only acceptable way of life - although gay issues and lifestyles (yes, Virginia, gays exist with or without society's acceptance) are coming to light and I think that makes heterosexuals wary for more reasons than I can list here - which is why it's good to have a forum like this to ask questions and get answers.

I said way too much. --~

[bountyhunter]

I think it's the BS that people are being fed in this country. Being gay is a crime, and those homos will pay in hell for that. For now, they can get aids as their punishment, along with other similliar diseases. The thought of homosexuality is unatural. Stick things where they are supposed to go, not where they aren't supposed to go. I was in english the other day, and some how we got into this subject. I said that it was wrong, and my english teacher imediately came and told us that there was nothing wrong with being gay(or lesbian). to hell with that. Not only does it make our country look bad, it makes our country weaker. This is one of the many things not to be proud to be an american for

[Professor Go]

Are you related to Jaga? LOL - your opinons are rediculous by the way. If AIDS is a "punishment" I guess the major majorities of heterosexuals in Africa are pissing off God something fierce!

I think you need to finish your education and actually meet a gay person before spewing hate like that.

[David85]

I have always been gay, I even remember now looking back to 3rd and 4th grade and thinkings guys were better. I had no traumatic event until 9th grade and by then I already new I was gay/bi.

Can we all say population control? If a species pop goes too high then they will die off, so make some not beable to have kids, and other not want to have kids.

[David85]

Originally posted by bountyhunter
I think it's the BS that people are being fed in this country. Being gay is a crime, and those homos will pay in hell for that. For now, they can get aids as their punishment, along with other similliar diseases. The thought of homosexuality is unatural. Stick things where they are supposed to go, not where they aren't supposed to go. I was in english the other day, and some how we got into this subject. I said that it was wrong, and my english teacher imediately came and told us that there was nothing wrong with being gay(or lesbian). to hell with that. Not only does it make our country look bad, it makes our country weaker. This is one of the many things not to be proud to be an american for

That's nice proud to be an American close-mined, ignorant asshole. You prob are against interracial marriages too.

[bountyhunter]

I don't mind interracial mariages. I am interracial myself. I am not an ignorant asshole, to hell with you.

[Professor Go]

Come on guys be civil. Don't screw the thread up.

[Boondock Saint]

Originally posted by bountyhunter
I think it's the BS that people are being fed in this country. Being gay is a crime, and those homos will pay in hell for that. For now, they can get aids as their punishment, along with other similliar diseases. The thought of homosexuality is unatural. Stick things where they are supposed to go, not where they aren't supposed to go. I was in english the other day, and some how we got into this subject. I said that it was wrong, and my english teacher imediately came and told us that there was nothing wrong with being gay(or lesbian). to hell with that. Not only does it make our country look bad, it makes our country weaker. This is one of the many things not to be proud to be an american for

first off, let me say that YOU are a f*cking MORON! aids isn't a disease that only affects gays...so you can cut out your "punishment" theory right there. also, if it's sooo unnatural, why is it even allowed in nature? after all, it's not specifically human to have homosexual tendencies. many primates, including chimps and gorillas, as well as many other species of mammals, are known to engage in homosexual activity.

saying that homosexuality is a sin is just plain wrong...go ahead and cite whatever you want from the bible, but know this first: there is NO word (that means none, whatsoever) in ancient hebrew (which the majority of the bible was written in) to denote homosexuality, and thus the bible cannot rant on and on against it.

now, you obviously have a f*cked up perspective if you think it reflects poorly on our country that we have GAY people here. jesus butt-f*cking christ, what the HELL are you thinking? there are gay people in ALL countries of the world, not the least of which is the US...(and, in fact, we're slightly more conservative about it than the rest of the so-called 'western' world, and thus how could it reflect badly on us if we were to become more liberal about it, considering the more liberal position in most other countries)...

you know, just reading this shit is making me sick. you are obviously uneducated and have never left your hometown of bumf*ck whereever it is you live. if anyone is going to suffer in hell, it will be you, for spewing hatred in the name of christianity, which is, believe it or not, not a vengeful religion...

to end, i will end with a quote from MY high school english teacher, when someone told him that he would burn in hell for not believing in christ: "It's YOUR hell, you burn there."

*edit* well, if you're interracial yourself, you should know that just twenty years or so ago, most people were very open when they said that interracial marriage "is just unnatural"...so, chew on that just a little bit you hypocritical prick.

sorry professor, but F*CK civility.

[Wh|tE gUy]

Originally posted by David85
Can we all say population control? If a species pop goes too high then they will die off, so make some not beable to have kids, and other not want to have kids.
Dont lesbians have biological clocks though?

and thanks for using the term "nature or nurture" thats exactly the phrase i was looking for!

Anyways, another instance of outside factors having a bearing on sexual preference can be found in great numbers here in America. How many girls in this country are either bisexual or atleast bi-curious? I would venture to say a great deal, and this is most likely because of our society. I would be willing to bet we have one of the highest bisexuality percentages among women in the world because our society is so accepting of lesbianism. We are taught that two girls having sex is hot and girls are taught to look at other girls as things of beauty. Personally i know VERY few girls that arent atleast open to the prospect of maybe being with a girl atleast once in their life, and the ones who arent are usually the homophobes/bible beaters (not to bash, just stating a fact)

Yes? No? Am i just a pig that wishes so many girls were bisexual?

[Professor Go]

Choosing to be bisexual and actually being bisexual or homosexual is hard to gage. I think men and women who flirt with the same gener and pretend to be "gay" just to be hip or surprising or whatever.. AND describe themselves as gay or bi give actual gay and bi people a bad reputation. I think that most people who describe themselves as gay truly are.

The reason I think there are "more" here is because it's illegal to stone, drown or (as Bountyhunger so eloquently stated above) consider being gay a crime. There are and have always been gay and bi people all over the planet - the reason there are "more" now is because persecution has become less, and homosexuality is no longer medically considered a "mental disorder".

[McBizzel]

Originally posted by bountyhunter
I think it's the BS that people are being fed in this country. Being gay is a crime, and those homos will pay in hell for that. For now, they can get aids as their punishment, along with other similliar diseases. The thought of homosexuality is unatural. Stick things where they are supposed to go, not where they aren't supposed to go. I was in english the other day, and some how we got into this subject. I said that it was wrong, and my english teacher imediately came and told us that there was nothing wrong with being gay(or lesbian). to hell with that. Not only does it make our country look bad, it makes our country weaker. This is one of the many things not to be proud to be an american for

Yeah dude, cuz everybody knows that those dirty ******s are wicked in their hearts, they'd probably get married just so that they could commit adultary and spread more aids, the punishment that only they deserve. All gay people should be arrested and put in internment camps, yeah, then maybe we could commit genocide. Look out Satan, here comes a whole shitload of dirty queers.

You have to be the biggest fucking idiot I have ever had the misfortune of hearing speak.

Did you come up with these opinions all by yourself? I hope that you did so that I can hate you better. --~

[Professor Go]

I think he learned from the Hitler Community College of Podunk, Alabama.

[David85]

Originally posted by McBizzel


You have to be the biggest fucking idiot I have ever had the misfortune of hearing speak.



nOT ONLY THAT BUT HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES EVEN THROUGH THE SAME THING WAS SAID ABOUT THAT NOT THAT LONG AGO, AND PEOPLE USED THAT AS A REASON NOT TO HAVE IT.

sorry for caps, it's late i'm lazy and don't want to rewrite it.

[David85]

Originally posted by Professor Go
Choosing to be bisexual and actually being bisexual or homosexual is hard to gage. I think men and women who flirt with the same gener and pretend to be "gay" just to be hip or surprising or whatever.. AND describe themselves as gay or bi give actual gay and bi people a bad reputation. I think that most people who describe themselves as gay truly are.



Who the hell pretends to be gay? You would be bashed in a second. No one gives gay bad reputation it's just that people think all the 5 gay people they see on TV act like that. I'm completely straight acting, I just like the same sex, and until a few weeks ago no one thought I was gay. They they say me with a gay friend and some noticed me looking at them so now they know. :) But most couldn't tell, not all gays act like what is sence on TV, if they did I would force myself straight, or kill myself.

[Boondock Saint]

i don't know about all this acting gay stuff, but he might be referring to the new hipness of metrosexuality (a whole entirely different thing altogether)...

i agree that this man is a fucking dolt, and if anyone will burn in hell...it will probably be him.

i have several gay friends, and they're some of the greatest people i've ever met in my entire life, that doesn't mean that non-gays aren't great as well, i'm just saying that they're people, just like me...just like you...just like anyone, and that's what they should be judged as...people.

you know what really reflects poorly on america? our ignorance. not only on this issue, but other things as well...like when we refer to "OLD EUROPE" and mean it disdainfully, or when we say that we're on a CRUSADE to fight terrorism in the middle east...we show our ignorance and complete incompetence in dealing with issues all the time. i really hope this country gets its act together, or it will be people like YOU and jaga that give this country a bad rep...

[MAX]

Originally posted by bountyhunter
This is one of the many things not to be proud to be an american for

Cause America is NOTORIOUS for being gay... not like amsterdam, or any number of european countries where it's an accepted part of life... or anchient greece, where they nurtured gay boys because they recognized thier accelerated abilities in math, science, and the arts....

[David85]

Did all you smart people vote? There's only 7 for it and that seems low.

[Professor Go]

The moderators are editing the poll results ;) hehe

Hey by the fucking way, can we get a few more smileys on the fuckin board? I have more than 9 facial expressions.

[David85]

I agree, with both parts. lol They don't even have a kissing face.

[McBizzel]

I did. --~

[Wh|tE gUy]

I think the people who hate gays (like bounty hunter) are 1 of 2 things.

1) immature, ignorant kids that just say shit because it sounds right. Remember when you were younger and would only watch lesbian porn because you thought you might be gay if you looked at dicks? (PLEASE say im not the only one) Its the same here. They are afraid to accept gay people out of fear of being associated with them which they are convinced is a horrible thing

2) The back water, bottem of the barrel hicks who everyone looks down on thus they desperately search for group(s) of people to put below themselves. Thats the primary reason for racism in the south. Who doesnt look down or make fun of southerners? Exactly. They realize they are the bottom of the ladder so they NEED to find someone to feel superior than. Anyone understand what im saying?


Ofcourse these statements are inherently racist because they state that only children or white people can be gay bashers. Oh well, i dont have an explanation for why other races may hate gays, especially black people who dont have a foreign culture to blame their views on. Ofcourse middle class white people have no excuse either except for that whole superiority/inferiority thing.

[Boondock Saint]

i live in south carolina, and i'm not bottom of the barrel. of course, you might be right...i'm only not bottom of the barrel b/c i hate blacks and gays...

wait a minute...point two made no sense at all...

what your second point SHOULD'VE been is: 2)they're overly-religious zealots who are convinced that jerry falwell is god's chosen savior of mankind and are also convinced of everything that comes out of the pricks mouth...which would be a much more accurate assumption than "They live in the south"

i don't even think there are that many people who live in the south on these boards...hmmm...

*edit* and no, the primary reason for racism in the south is ignorance, not b/c people are bottom of the barrel. to say that type of thing is just retarded...after all, there are MANY well-to-do people (several non-southerners in fact come to mind) who hate blacks just as much...so saying that it's a southern thing and that southerners are stupid is the most retarded thing i've heard you say lately...and you've said QUITE a few recently...

[Professor Go]

I don't think all anti-gay people are totally braindead drooling Cletus the slackjawed yokels - I think there is a lot of misinformation out there that makes people act the way they do.

And I will also say that I think men are much more likely to be gaybashers or anti-gay than women - and the reason for that is I think at heterosexual males' cores is a fear of being seeing as unmasculine and a fear of having friends, family or themselves being gay - because in many cultures homosexuality means femeninity or lack of power. So to "prove" their masculinity, they say dumbfuck things like some of the guys above to make themselves feel better about who they are and to put down "fags" in hopes they will magically "go away".

Well dammit gay people aren't going anywhere!! WHODA THUNK IT?!

I find that men who are "ok" with gay people are usually a) very confident in their sexuality and b) understand that gay people have feelings too and don't like it when they're insulted and dehumnized and defamed. I respect men, even if they are uncomfortable around gay people, who can treat another guy who happens to be gay like a person and not discriminate because of ignorant shit he was taught like AIDS PASSED THROUGH BUBBLEGUM.

[MAX]

I think this thread needs to be closed... theres no point in arguing with someone that has a closed mind, and a lot of hate to spread...

[McBizzel]

Originally posted by David85
I have always been gay, I even remember now looking back to 3rd and 4th grade and thinkings guys were better. I had no traumatic event until 9th grade and by then I already new I was gay/bi.



Dude, every little boy thought that boys were better than girls, that's why we didn't allow them in our clubs. Our AWESOME clubs.

I don't dislike gay people, but I DO dislike those guys who act like they are gay (like a woman), but they aren't gay (or women). That just kind of makes me mad. It's kind of funny too though. --~

[MAX]

Originally posted by McBizzel
Dude, every little boy thought that boys were better than girls, that's why we didn't allow them in our clubs. Our AWESOME clubs.

I don't dislike gay people, but I DO dislike those guys who act like they are gay (like a woman), but they aren't gay (or women). That just kind of makes me mad. It's kind of funny too though. --~

I'm gay, and I can tell you that even the guys who ARE gay and act like girls are JUST as annoying.

[Miggy-AMN]

Ooooohhhhhhhh......

[Professor Go]

Miguel no playing with yourself in this thread!

[Santo]

Well President Bush doesn't approve, so I do. Honestly though, I don't see why this is such a big issue, it shouldn't be big for neither gays nor straight people. Blown totally out of proportion imo.

[Professor Go]

Religion makes you do kooky things.

[Santo]

Ah yes, religion is the cause of all this. Well things are obviously going to change as you progress through time, so should religion.

[MAX]

Sure... as soon as we get rid of a pesky little thing called the Bible... oh, and the Pope...

[Professor Go]

Hahaha.. i don't think it's a matter of really getting rid of the bible or God - Christianity, at its base, is a beautiful thing. Unfortunately it's the people who try to pretend that they know everything about God and his wishes that makes people forget the basic teachings of Jesus Christ, which is peace, understanding, love and forgiveness.

As for the Pope, he's a different story altogether. I'm an ex-catholic (or "survivor" as I call myself) and the church's stance on protection, gays and other parts of life are so outdated and dangerous, I can't stand to see what's happened to the church. Oh well.

http://www.gaymart.com/stickers/4full/Sticker095.jpg

[David85]

Originally posted by McBizzel
Dude, every little boy thought that boys were better than girls, that's why we didn't allow them in our clubs. Our AWESOME clubs.

I don't dislike gay people, but I DO dislike those guys who act like they are gay (like a woman), but they aren't gay (or women). That just kind of makes me mad. It's kind of funny too though. --~


Don't you dare make fun of femguys. My let's go with "friend" is really femy sometimes but it's so cute, because he acts gay and like a guy at the same time. Plus he will have a more manly thing than you ever will have. hehe :p

[MAX]

femguys makes me think of fembots... I don't think I could really tell them apart actually...

[David85]

Are you making fun of Bender now too? People are going over the edge here. :p

[David85]

Originally posted by McBizzel
Dude, every little boy thought that boys were better than girls, that's why we didn't allow them in our clubs. Our AWESOME clubs.

I don't dislike gay people, but I DO dislike those guys who act like they are gay (like a woman), but they aren't gay (or women). That just kind of makes me mad. It's kind of funny too though. --~


Opps, I disread what you said. You are talking about what Howard Dean is, that metrosexual word they made up. Those people can also be trans... *hides*.... I think my friend is trans, but I won't let him because a girl. :)

[MAX]

Originally posted by David85
Opps, I disread what you said. You are talking about what Howard Dean is, that metrosexual word they made up. Those people can also be trans... *hides*.... I think my friend is trans, but I won't let him because a girl. :)

Some of that grammar really threw me off.. so I didn't understand the last part... but I wanted to comment on that word METROSEXUAL...

That is the stupidest word ever... and it needs to be destroyed.

[Boondock Saint]

yeah. i agree that the word metrosexual and the concept behind it (that women all want gay guys who aren't gay) needs to be thrown away...i mean, maybe some girls do, and that's fine...but to have to have a name for it...especially one so stupid, is...well, stupid.

and professor go, you never cease to crack me up. i find your position on the church very truthful, and my friend that is also a former catholic laughed so hard when you said you were a "survivor". hahaha.

[David85]

Girls like guys that don't want just sex and they can shop with and thous gay guys are perfect. :D

Don't mind the ending part, I started to rant.

[Boondock Saint]

yeah, i know what you mean, but as a heterosexual, i must say that i don't mind shopping, and i don't mind not having sex all tht time. maybe i'm not the norm, but hey...that's fine by me. the point i'm trying to make is that i agree with the things rottwylor said about abolishing the word metrosexual...i mean, c'mon...they're CRAB PEOPLE for crying out loud!

man...i wish someone else would vote and/or say something ignorant...this thread's gone off topic...well, i guess that's usual around here on these forums.

[David85]

I don't even think the word is real. I think it's just a world they made up for Dean several months ago and bisexual guys went "I like that". :D

[Boondock Saint]

nah, they didn't make it up for dean. it all came about when the guys on "queer eye" started throwing it around. it has more to do with that show than anything dealing with politics...

i'm curious, though...what does the gay community think of that show, or other shows that bravo shows, i.e. boy meets boy, etc.?

[David85]

IIt's not in my little Webster's dictionary, so I don't think it is a word. My favorite is when people go "I'm not a homophobe, I don't fear them I just hate them (because I'm jelous of them)."

But does that mean metrosexaul is someone who wants to have sex on a subway.

[David85]

Boy meet Boy I liked and didn't have a problem with them tricking the guy. It was a "good" show mainly because of hot guys. But Queer Eye I hate, a lot of gay guys like it, but a lot hate it because it makes all gays look like we are only good at fasion. They never show the manlier gay guys on TV. Like me. :D

[Boondock Saint]

who voted yes? who's vote number eight?

and actually, they could want to have sex on the subway...or, god forbid, even WITH the subway...it would make sense, with the rules of creating compound nouns, etc...

*edit* well, the one guy that gives the cooking tips doesn't really come off as gay at all, but instead someone who just went to culinary school. and also, if the hair and body care guy didn't dress in those ultra-tight shirts every once in awhile, i wouldn't think they was gay at all if i saw him in the street. so, i don't know if it makes it look like you're all obsessed with fashion or anything, but i do know that carson's pretty funny when he makes fun of how people are slobs...that's universal, though, not just gay. i hate people who can't dress themselves halfway decent.

[Mariosmentor]

that would be me

[David85]

Good man. :)

[Sean-AMN]

marriage is an istitution that has stood the test of time, between a man and a woman... there has always been homosexuals, yet there has never been gay marriage.I dont feel its right that any couple be kept away from one another in a hospital, that I think needs to change not just for gays but anyone in a relationship. If I'm dating a girl I dont think I should be kept out either... I just feel thatmarriage is something that people need to keep as s. While many now adays treat it like crap and misuse it or dont uphold it like they state they will... I still feel passionate about it and while I have nothing agaist homosexuals in any way I am sorry to say I am 100% this.

[David85]

Gays didn't get marriaged before because they never had to. There was never all the legal stuff that comes with marriage. And here's a thought for you. For the "test of time" marriage was for whites, just whites. That changed, people got used to iut. Then interracial marriages were illegal until like just 35 years ago, or 3-4 years if you live in Alabama. People need to open there mind to new things or they will look like an ass to the later generations.

[Professor Go]

I like Queer Eye but only because it's entertaining, not because it somehow "represents" the gay community. In fact, it probably farces it a little bit, although I do know guys like that, I think for the most part, gay people are not like that.

But the reason it's successful is because it's harmless fun.

Unlike teletubbies which is GAY PEOPLES' WAY OF TURNING OUR YOUTH INTO HOMOS![/Jerry Falwell]

**EDIT - And Dave has a point.. just decades ago, a black man marrying a white woman was considered uncouth, ungodly and an abomination. In fact, I wouldn't doubt if there were some people who still thought that, and used the same arguments against gay marriage as they did against interracial marriage.

[Nigel]

Originally posted by Jaga
I'm not with gay marrages. You know it makes us (the united states) look bad. i never hear anything about other countries having guys go with guys or anything.

guys with guys also causes alot of disease which can spread realitivly quickley like through blood or saliva

if for example if some guy thats gay sticks his gum under a table and another person accedently touches it and then eats something with his hands on the food then hes gonna be infected too...

I just lost all respect for you in the course of a minute. What a stupid and ignorant thing to say. It's like in the 1700's when they thought gay was a disease.

Plus, how dumb is what you said?!

What you said assumes:

-All gay people are diseased
-Only gay people are diseased
-Only gay people can spread disease.

TRY AGAIN?!

[David85]

They do, I'm doing a whole report for government class about the ignorance of people saying that interracial marriage is ok, but gay marriage is not, even through the Bible "says" they are.

But people really think that all gays act like that. Heck people think that gays are controlling the news media with all the gay marriage stuff and they blame the gays for seeing so much about it. People are dumb.

[Nigel]

Originally posted by bountyhunter
I think it's the BS that people are being fed in this country. Being gay is a crime, and those homos will pay in hell for that. For now, they can get aids as their punishment, along with other similliar diseases. The thought of homosexuality is unatural. Stick things where they are supposed to go, not where they aren't supposed to go. I was in english the other day, and some how we got into this subject. I said that it was wrong, and my english teacher imediately came and told us that there was nothing wrong with being gay(or lesbian). to hell with that. Not only does it make our country look bad, it makes our country weaker. This is one of the many things not to be proud to be an american for

Not only do I now hate you, I think you should be shot. REPUBELICKAN.

[David85]

No swearing Nigel, keep the R word to yourself. lol :p

[Nigel]

Sorry, I just hate stupid, ignorant, Podunk-home-spun, NRA loving, bible waving, big mouthed STUPID IGNORANT STUPID IGNORANT Re- oh i can't say it

REPUBLICANS!

[David85]

What did I say about you saying the R word? :p

[MAX]

Originally posted by Boondock Saint
who voted yes? who's vote number eight?

and actually, they could want to have sex on the subway...or, god forbid, even WITH the subway...it would make sense, with the rules of creating compound nouns, etc...

*edit* well, the one guy that gives the cooking tips doesn't really come off as gay at all, but instead someone who just went to culinary school. and also, if the hair and body care guy didn't dress in those ultra-tight shirts every once in awhile, i wouldn't think they was gay at all if i saw him in the street. so, i don't know if it makes it look like you're all obsessed with fashion or anything, but i do know that carson's pretty funny when he makes fun of how people are slobs...that's universal, though, not just gay. i hate people who can't dress themselves halfway decent.

I have only ever liked Will & Grace, mainly for Jack and Karen being so over the top... but I will watch Queer Eye every once in a while to watch the gay cooking guy.. I have a crush on him.. Kyan (the hair and health guy) was here in Minneapolis last week for something.. I don't think anyone really cared though...

[Sean-AMN]

Listen lets not turn this into a personal stab fest guys.... this was a simple question, lets be civil.... and btw there are gay republicans... I live in San Francisco and when I go to events for canidatesI always see a group of gay republicans (they have pins) belive it or not if you have see the simpsons episode withthe pink elephant ... its the same thing

[Professor Go]

You do know the owner of the site is a hardcore Republican ;) haha. Plus, although most Republicans are conseravative, not all Republicans are anti-gay and not even all conservatives dislike gays.

In fact there are even gay republicans! Of course that's like saying there are Black KKK members. :P.


** Me and Sean were on the same wavelength heh.

[Sean-AMN]

I did once see a black kkk guy on jerry springer when I was ome sick fro school one day... lol now thats well talk about slapping your own people in the face, Id kick his ass ifI saw him

[Professor Go]

I think I saw that same guy! I thought the audience was going to break through security and kill him :O

[MAX]

Originally posted by Sean-GCA
marriage is an istitution that has stood the test of time, between a man and a woman... there has always been homosexuals, yet there has never been gay marriage.I dont feel its right that any couple be kept away from one another in a hospital, that I think needs to change not just for gays but anyone in a relationship. If I'm dating a girl I dont think I should be kept out either... I just feel thatmarriage is something that people need to keep as s. While many now adays treat it like crap and misuse it or dont uphold it like they state they will... I still feel passionate about it and while I have nothing agaist homosexuals in any way I am sorry to say I am 100% this.

Wrong.. marriage as an institution has NOT withstood the test of time. It's not working due to the high number of marriages that end in divorce, so to make that statement is inaccurate. With regards to homosexuals always being around, and never marrying, you can blame prejudice, bigotry, and pagans calling themselves christians for that. Although people like to misinterpret the bible, and pick and choose things to make an argument... there is nothing in it that says homosexuality is wrong.. or that gay people should try to change, or not get married... nowhere does it say that. Try to prove me wrong on that. So to say that we should not be allowed to get married because it's an institution thats withstood the test of time... is stupid. What institution? The institution based on prejudice and lies? I don't understand why people can't think for themselves, and take into consideration the feelings and rights of other people. WHO CARES if one guy wants to marry another.. it doesn't affect you! I seriously doubt that the "sanctity of marriage" plays a big role in your day to day life. Wake up people... it's 2004... get over the ignorance and bigotry.

[David85]

^ I like you. :)

(not in that way)

[Lovebird]

well, my respect for sean just went down the crapper....o well....thank god the poll isn't neck and neck anymore....i just can't believe how people think it's a bad thing for homosexual couples to get married....o well, and this sanctity of marriage thing, marriage is about love right? then how come 50 percent of al marriages end in divorce, so forget that sanctity crap, those people are obviosly not in love...but the way i see it, it doesn't matter where love comes from, love is love. plain and simple. and since marriage is about ove, if any two peolpe who truly love eachother want to get married, what's wrog with that...?

[Professor Go]

You gay guys have it all wrong! The sanctity of the American marriage still stands strong and pure today:

1) Britney's 10-minute marriage to Elmer Hyuckenson

2) Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire?

3) Who wants to marry my dad?

4) 45+% rate of divorces

5) Who wants to marry.. a MULTI-Millionaire?

6) Drive-through divorces

7) Average Joe

8) Joe Millionaire

9) Who wants to marry a monkey?

10) The argument of the "sanctity" of marriage proposed by conservatives is a veiled attempt to push for the ideal 50's-inspired Christian nuclear family and oppress homosexuals in hopes they will either a) Move to Canada, b) Disappear, c) Turn straight and get married or d) give up an die.

[MAX]

I don't get that whole "it's the way it has always been" mentality as a justification for perpetuating ignorance and intolerance. Especially if this person believes that no couple should be denied [as (s)he so randomly pointed out] hospital visitation, (s)he is ackowledging that two (wo)men can have feelings for each other--feelings strong enough to form a relationship. So why should this relationship be treated any differently in the institution of marriage than a hetero couple if all the other elements of a relationship are there?

As far as I'm concerned, the church can have it's hetero marriage because I couldn't care less what the church thinks of me, but the government has no business telling me I must choose a partner of the opposite sex to be viewed equal in the eyes of the legislature.

[Sean-AMN]

Listen I agree with you guys about these assholes who abuse marriage, I just am expressing my opinion

[MAX]

but your opinion is wrong... lol

*edit*

IGNANT!! YOU IS IGNANT GIRRRL!!!

[Professor Go]

I'm not hating on you Sean, you are approaching the discussion like someone who actually has something to say.

EDIT: And Rotty there are no wrong opinions :P Dufus

[Lovebird]

rite on rottwylor! let th echurch say wat it wants, but when the govrnmt starts talking sheet, man, that just pisses me off...
btw, sean, i don't see how you could agree, but still disagree...that just makes no sense man...

[MAX]

Of course there are opinions that are wrong.. in my opinion =)
SO HA!!!

Besides.. i'm never wrong

[Lovebird]

c'mon now rottwylor.....don't make me have to not respect you anymre......

[MAX]

Originally posted by PatrickMugan
c'mon now rottwylor.....don't make me have to not respect you anymre......

dood.. I was adding levity!

[Professor Go]

*makes note to prove Rotty wrong* ;)

[Lovebird]

lol...let's get em fellas! nyahaha!

[MAX]

Won't happen =)

[Lovebird]

huh, i didn't realize ur a new member rottwylr.

[Professor Go]

Well you can't disprove that AIDS isn't spread through gum underneath the table.

Oh man I'm making myself laugh. Jaga's post is going to provide laughter for years to come. Why hasn't he returned???

[MAX]

Would that matter? Are you going to discriminate against me, and not allow me to marry another new member just because I am different?????

[Lovebird]

he's scared, he realized how stupid that post was and he's locked himself in his room...lol, it's so hilarious....i think i'll put it in my AIM profile....lol...

[Professor Go]

We really shouldn't be laughing at uneducated people but that post was beyond insane. I mean.. wow.

I hope I'm invited to all the gay guys' weddings now.

[MAX]

Originally posted by Professor Go
Well you can't disprove that AIDS isn't spread through gum underneath the table.

Oh man I'm making myself laugh. Jaga's post is going to provide laughter for years to come. Why hasn't he returned???

Catching HIV from chewed bubblegum thats been stuck to the underside of a table is pretty much impossible. Unless there is blood on it and you had an open wound that touched it. The virus that causes HIV infection dies pretty quick when it's exposed to air. Also, it can't survive long in salive, thus we get checked via blood and not saliva. I'm sure in some really remote, incredibly misfortunate crazy miracle.. it could happen... I think it's more likely that you will catch a strain of Ebola in Arkansas before that would happen....

[Lovebird]

AIDS spread thru gum?wth? and wat is he talking about it is easier transmitted thru 2 guys? what a dope

[Professor Go]

Originally posted by rottwylor
Catching HIV from chewed bubblegum thats been stuck to the underside of a table is pretty much impossible. Unless there is blood on it and you had an open wound that touched it. The virus that causes HIV infection dies pretty quick when it's exposed to air. Also, it can't survive long in salive, thus we get checked via blood and not saliva. I'm sure in some really remote, incredibly misfortunate crazy miracle.. it could happen... I think it's more likely that you will catch a strain of Ebola in Arkansas before that would happen....

Ok just to warn you, I was being sarcastic. So with your levity and my sarcasm.. we can rule the world. With you as my queen of course.

[MAX]

Originally posted by Professor Go
Ok just to warn you, I was being sarcastic. So with your levity and my sarcasm.. we can rule the world. With you as my queen of course.

Just cause I'm gay, does not make me a queen, lol...to funny!

Oh... and someone voted NO again... so it's 9-8

*edit*
I mean, c'mon.. look at me... I'm a flippin stud!
YOU can be queen... =)

[Lovebird]

yeah, who voted no?!?!!? betcha they won't admit it! can i be the prince?

[MAX]

princess patrick toadstool mugan of mushroom kingdom...

it DOES have a ring to it...

[Lovebird]

damn straight it has a ring!

[MAX]

We're getting off topic.. again...

I want someone to [try] to make a valid point on WHY two (wo)men can't marry each other...

[Lovebird]

well no one else is talking so there's nothing we can do, with any luck some dope like jaga will come and try to argue with us....that'd make things fun for a while...

[Professor Go]

This is a discussion forum, not an argument forum, fellas :-P

How old are you two anyway.

[Lovebird]

14

[MAX]

thats not fun.. I want someone that isn't 12 and can debate well... when people put stuff up like that, it makes the thread slow down...

[bountyhunter]

Call me a bible-waver again and I'll shove that bible in your ass.

[MAX]

Originally posted by Professor Go
This is a discussion forum, not an argument forum, fellas :-P

How old are you two anyway.

13... i'm younger than patrick.. he's gonna be mah sugardaddy someday... when we are legal working adults...



*edit* all kidding aside, I'm 26

[Lovebird]

what are you gettting at? eh? based on responses from others in this forum, i'd say my age doesn't matter compared to them.

[Lovebird]

whoa bounty, calm down, where'd that come from?

[MAX]

Originally posted by bountyhunter
Call me a bible-waver again and I'll shove that bible in your ass.

Judging from that comment.. I am to assume you drive a BIG truck but have a really small....bible...



ps... I'm kinda aroused... *sheepish grin*

[Lovebird]

lol, don't encourage him, rottwylr....

[Sean-AMN]

guys this is getting out of hand if it keeps up we will close it...

[MAX]

Ok.. lets talk about something that no one can get offended over... how about... ladybugs...

[Nigel]

Originally posted by bountyhunter
Call me a bible-waver again and I'll shove that bible in your ass.

It's amazing how you preach about the horrors of homosexuality, but love thy neighbor doesn't mean shit to you.

[Miggy-AMN]

Hmmm, I should close this. I think that you guys said enough and might get offensive (More than you've already been).

I'm not pointing fingers, but I'm keeping my eyes on this.

[David85]

Nice one Nigel.

Maybe to him the 69th commandment is "Shall not be gay".

[MAX]

SOMEONE close this thread... please, lol

[Professor Go]

I'm closing this.

*closed*

[Wh|tE gUy]

Wow, lol for a minute there i thought you were a mod
(please dont do the signature *closed* thing again, i might believe it one day)

Anyways, this thread has run its course. Some of us have learned something, some of us have not. However, i think we have ALL lost respect for atleast a few members here and made atleast 1 new enemy. Hooray.

*CLOSED*