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Boondock Saint

01-23-2004, 11:51 AM

yeah, i heard that speech. whatever, i don't much like dean. i don't dislike him a lot, but he's not the best choice...and i think what the professor meant is that he'd vote for anyone else before he ALLOWS bush to get re-elected.

...unless of course he's a newly formed liberal, in which case, good choice!

but, he's too sure of liberalism to be that...so i'm going with my first option...now, let's see if he answers and if i'm right...

Professor Go

01-23-2004, 12:01 PM

Silliw, I voted for Gore that year, and I remember specifically the night Bush was announced the *absolute* winner, my heart just dropped into my stomach - I could not believe a man with no debate skills and such a disgusting record on pollution, executions and drug/alcohol abuse in the past could not only have gotten that far, but have WON against candidates much smarter and better for the job. It floored me.

So this year, I only hope the American public realizes exactly where we are in the world, what we're doing and how we are presenting ourselves in a global forum and votes for a candidate that will get us the hell out of this war and back to domestic issues like education (and no not Bush's "Leave Children in Poor Schools Behind" agenda) and the economy.

HMPH!

Boondock Saint

01-23-2004, 12:19 PM

amen to all of that. people say gore's boring, but you know what? he knows his shit, and that's a LOT more than anyone can say for bush. in fact, many of his supporters think it's "cute" how he's always bumbling around and all that stupid crap. man, if it were a democrat they'd call it incompetence. either way, i'd see it as stupid.

Santo

01-23-2004, 12:43 PM

The problem with Gore was he was too much like a robot. Trust me, I'd much rather have Gore in the white house than Bush, but personally I don't think either are ideal presidents.

Professor Go

01-23-2004, 12:45 PM

I agree Gore really needed to loosen up, and when they tried to make him seem hip or something unlike a robot with constipation, it just made him look even worse.

Clinton though.. that was a guy you could love. And apparently have sex with.

Boondock Saint

01-23-2004, 03:15 PM

man, if our country could do as good right now as under clinton...i'd give pretty much anything. i just can't believe it's actually this bad. have you guys seen the 'bush in 30 seconds' ads at moveon.org? they're actually really good...you should check them out.

David85

01-23-2004, 03:28 PM

I rather run the country, I prob could do a better job.

But coming from Mass I most ask one question...

WHY IN THE NAME OF EVERYTHING LIVING DO YOU WACKOS FREAKIN LIKE KERRY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

and....

WHY DID YOU START LIKING HIM ON SATURDAY?!?!?!?!?!?!
WHAT MADE YOU CHANGE YOUR MINDS ABOUT HIM?!?!?!?!

Boondock Saint

01-23-2004, 03:42 PM

i always picked him over dean and edwards. i never changed my mind about him.

what i think kerry is able to do is actually deliver on his economic plans, and if he can get the economy under some realm of control, then that's reason enough for me to like him. he also lends credibility to the democratic party. the GOP can't target him as unpatriotic...he's a veteran and has served several senate terms. he's everything the GOP will hate to run against, and if he can hold sway with the veterans vote, then we've got them as well, especially if he points out how bush has made cuts to military pay, veterans' benefits, etc. over the course of the past year.

David85

01-23-2004, 03:54 PM

Don't pull that "veteran" shit on me. As soon as he came back from the war he dropped out and started to protest against it.

Kerry's nuymbers last week were like 7-15% then he wins it out of no where and based on nothing. I poll done in Mass shows that we, the people from his home state, don't want him as president.

Santo

01-23-2004, 04:05 PM

I actually think it's pretty cool that he came home and protested the war. Just showed that he's far from afraid of showing his political viewpoint, and that he'll fight for a cause.

David85

01-23-2004, 04:13 PM

Oh my god! The left wing media comes and starts showing you Kerry some more and you are all brainwashed.

Casey-AMN

01-23-2004, 04:13 PM

I think (and hope) that all of this multi-candidate back-and-forth bullcrap will splinter apart the entire Democratic Party. There'll be little left after the incumbant wins by a landslide.

Hah! May the burnination (flaming) begin!

Santo

01-23-2004, 04:17 PM

It's always been like this, every four years the same thing.

Professor Go

01-23-2004, 04:24 PM

How can you crap on Kerry for actually standing up for what he believes in? At least he's not a flag-waving patriotic sheep pushing for war because the President thinks it's right.

David85

01-23-2004, 04:40 PM

Oh I'm sorry I don't like Kerry, who I know more than any of you. He doesn't burn flags, no, but he voted yes on the war, and then stood with that for a while, then said no, then yes, then no. He flip flops as much as Dean.

Santo

01-23-2004, 04:55 PM

No offense but that's quite an arrogant thing to say. How do you know you know more about Kerry than any of us?

As for going back and forth on supported the war, so did most americans. I, myself at times supported the war like I think just about everybody else did. Bush presented us with an array of (false) information and pretty much got the support of everybody.

Professor Go

01-23-2004, 05:05 PM

Damn skippy - good point Santo.. I mean can you really say Bush hasn't done the same? Bush has flip-flopped on justifying the war since the beginning.. here's some quotes from Shrub and Co.

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction...to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us."

Well that's a bit scary isn't it? Of course none have been found.

""the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas"

Holy crap.. THOUSANDS OF TONS? Well, of course this rumor was debunked by his own staff.

Remember when he said Iraq was trying to get chmicals and agents from Africa to build his own nuclear weapons that he could use within a year?

I mean it's this constant barrage of wrong information followed by different justifications .. Bush is not innocent of flip-flopping, or for that matter, flat out lying.

Boondock Saint

01-23-2004, 05:21 PM

goddam right. kerry thought vietnam was wrong. hell, he was there, so why should you tell him he's wrong when he was over there and that's why he thought it was wrong? were you in vietnam?

bush sucks, plain and simple, and i'd elect a goddam piece of cellophane before i let him back in office.

Santo

01-23-2004, 05:29 PM

Exactly. Which I think is just more justification of why he should win out.

David85

01-23-2004, 06:41 PM

See, this is the problem with today. People vote for the other side just because they hate the other side more. Everyone hates Bush ands why not, he wants to spend 1.5 billion to "save" marriage, the whole alien thing, the BS space thing, basicly pissing off everyone that isn't reglinious. They everything he says is "God is on our side", isn't that what the terrorist say?

I'm not going to vote, everyone running are dumbasses and none should be presidents.

Professor Go

01-23-2004, 07:08 PM

So... did you just agree with me? I agree, Bush is a tuna taco.

David85

01-23-2004, 07:24 PM

Well I agree because I hate all polititions on the earth.

prime_timer

01-23-2004, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Professor Go
Damn skippy - good point Santo.. I mean can you really say Bush hasn't done the same? Bush has flip-flopped on justifying the war since the beginning.. here's some quotes from Shrub and Co.

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction...to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us."

Well that's a bit scary isn't it? Of course none have been found.

""the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas"

Holy crap.. THOUSANDS OF TONS? Well, of course this rumor was debunked by his own staff.

Remember when he said Iraq was trying to get chmicals and agents from Africa to build his own nuclear weapons that he could use within a year?

I mean it's this constant barrage of wrong information followed by different justifications .. Bush is not innocent of flip-flopping, or for that matter, flat out lying.

Brilliant. Simply brilliant Professor.

Should probally mention that Bush visited my Home state of Arizona yesterday to talk to students at a community collee, and have a casual Mexican dinner with some local sports moguls (although i think he came here to kiss Arizonas ass, seeing as though he barely won it in 2000). I wish somebody dropped the hot fajita in his lap. Now makes me wonder whos going to win these next few primaries.

David85

01-23-2004, 07:35 PM

Well I wouldn't trust what the straff said because they got fired. There might be weapons there hiding in the sand.

Nigel

01-23-2004, 09:17 PM

I think Dean has the best chance, followed by Kerry and Edwards. Go Dean! BTW, you can take Gephardt off, he just ended his entire political carreer.

bountyhunter

01-23-2004, 09:39 PM

I think edwards is the best out of these guys. bush is retarded, but I don't think he'll lose.

prime_timer

01-23-2004, 10:01 PM

i hope Bush loses, but backing him is the almighty dollar, and god knows thats what got him into office.

However, i beleive bush pissed a lot of people off by going into Iraq and never finding WMD's. He says he was trying to protect world peace... me and my dad both think he went in to clean up what his daddy left behind in the Gulf War: Take saddam out

bountyhunter

01-23-2004, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by David85
See, this is the problem with today. People vote for the other side just because they hate the other side more. Everyone hates Bush ands why not, he wants to spend 1.5 billion to "save" marriage, the whole alien thing, the BS space thing, basicly pissing off everyone that isn't reglinious. They everything he says is "God is on our side", isn't that what the terrorist say?

I'm not going to vote, everyone running are dumbasses and none should be presidents.

Yes, everybody does think god is on their side.

dopefish

01-23-2004, 10:19 PM

I'd rather see an N-Gage in office instead of Bush.

The funny thing is about his "No Child is Left Behind" policy is that almost no teachers support it. My Mom is a teacher and apparently everyone will retire when the law comes fully into effect. How will this help the American Education system?!? The only hope is that a Democrat wins the election and he can get rid of the No Child Left Behind crap when it comes back to be re-approved.

I checked out some of the ads on www.moveon.org awhile back and alot of them are hilarious. It's just too bad that they won't be able to show the winning one on CBS. CBS refuses to air it:. Here's why:

--
"Dear friend,

During this year's Super Bowl, you'll see ads sponsored by beer companies, tobacco companies, and the Bush White House. But you won't see the winning ad in MoveOn.org Voter Fund's Bush in 30 Seconds ad contest. CBS refuses to air it.

Meanwhile, the White House and Congressional Republicans are on the verge of signing into law a deal which Senator John McCain (R-AZ) says is custom-tailored for CBS and Fox, allowing the two networks to grow much bigger. CBS lobbied hard for this rule change; MoveOn.org members across the country lobbied against it; and now the MoveOn.org ad has been rejected while the White House ad will be played. It looks an awful lot like CBS is playing politics with the right to free speech.

Of course, this is bigger than just the MoveOn.org Voter Fund. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) submitted an ad that was also rejected. We need to let CBS know that this practice of arbitrarily turning down ads that may be "controversial" – especially if they're controversial simply because they take on the President – just isn't right.

To watch the ad that CBS won't air and sign the petition to CBS to run these ads, go to:
http://www.moveon.org/cbs/ad/

MoveOn.org will deliver the petition by email directly to CBS headquarters.

Thanks."

David85

01-23-2004, 10:19 PM

I liked Gephardt the most, now Edwards.

prime_timer

01-23-2004, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by dopefish
Of course, this is bigger than just the MoveOn.org Voter Fund. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) submitted an ad that was also rejected. We need to let CBS know that this practice of arbitrarily turning down ads that may be "controversial" – especially if they're controversial simply because they take on the President – just isn't right.

To watch the ad that CBS won't air and sign the petition to CBS to run these ads, go to:
http://www.moveon.org/cbs/ad/

MoveOn.org will deliver the petition by email directly to CBS headquarters.

Thanks."

I hate PETA, damn hippies. you should join MY PETA: People eating tasty animals!

Wh|tE gUy

01-23-2004, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by dopefish
We need to let CBS know that this practice of arbitrarily turning down ads that may be "controversial" – especially if they're controversial simply because they take on the President – just isn't right.

This is an ad they want to air during the Super Bowl. For those of you who did not realize, the Super Bowl is THE MOST WATCHED TELEVISION EVENT IN THE WORLD. That means world-wide people(including our troops who will certainly be viewing it) can watch it. Do you really think it is appropriate to have a commercial bashing our leader during an airing of a staple in American culture? That would make it anti-propaganda, as in it would hurt our moral while boasting our enemies'.

Showing us so divided on such a LARGE international scale makes us look weak, something we don't need during this time of terrorism (which is now more present than ever IMO). Air the commercial any other time, just keep it out of the Super Bowl

David85

01-23-2004, 11:25 PM

Well the Super Bowl isn't that much watched, hell American Idol last year beat it.

Boondock Saint

01-24-2004, 10:17 AM

i do believe it's something that needs to be seen, no matter who's watching. you know why? b/c the country IS actually that divided. it's not like a huge secret we're keeping from the rest of the world. they know exactly what's going on here. but, taking ads and not allowing them to be shown is a form of censorship, and i say that if cbs is going to allow you to see 'anti-drug' commercials and whatnot that the gov't itself puts out and pays for, then they could at least show other political views.

to think that it's going to make the country look bad is perhaps the stupidest idea anyone's ever had. the country already looks bad, and we're not fooling anyone by trying to put a happy face on a situation that everyone in the world KNOWS is shit. so, white guy, you'd better come up with a solution quick...like, i don't know, invading the entire world.

Santo

01-24-2004, 10:52 AM

Here's a solution: legalize drugs, eliminate censorship, start a dictatorship, merge all the states into California and let Arnold rule it all!

Boondock Saint

01-24-2004, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by Santo
Here's a solution: legalize drugs, eliminate censorship, start a dictatorship, merge all the states into California and let Arnold rule it all!

that's a solution alright, a bad one.

Santo

01-24-2004, 11:37 AM

I never said it was a GOOD solution, just seems that everybody has a solution of their own, when in reality it's much much more complex then that.

David85

01-24-2004, 01:14 PM

*Buys ticket to the UK*

Professor Go

01-24-2004, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Wh|tE gUy
This is an ad they want to air during the Super Bowl. For those of you who did not realize, the Super Bowl is THE MOST WATCHED TELEVISION EVENT IN THE WORLD. That means world-wide people(including our troops who will certainly be viewing it) can watch it. Do you really think it is appropriate to have a commercial bashing our leader during an airing of a staple in American culture? That would make it anti-propaganda, as in it would hurt our moral while boasting our enemies'.

How appropriate is it to watch commercials where women turn into dancing whores for beer? I'm not sure you realize it but like Boon said, we are already divided, this country is NOT unanimous on what needs to be done and how they feel about the president and his war. If anything the Superbowl is the best time to have non-violent dissent be present.. what a disgusting thought that all sides of the issue can't be portrayed in the media because it would make the country "look" bad.

Showing us so divided on such a LARGE international scale makes us look weak, something we don't need during this time of terrorism (which is now more present than ever IMO). Air the commercial any other time, just keep it out of the Super Bowl

Would you rather we aired "GOD BLESS THE USA" songs being sung by Toby Keith while red, white and blue cheer leaders danced with victorious US soldiers? Oh wait........ that's not the half-time show is it?

Boondock Saint

01-24-2004, 05:42 PM

i don't think so. something about beyonce singing god bless america while being a cheerleader in a flag outfit or something...

followed by toby keith singing the 'we'll put a boot in your ass' song...hey, that'd look really good for america if the whole world's watching, won't it white guy? douchebag.

Wh|tE gUy

01-24-2004, 06:22 PM

People who watch the super bowl ads develop their own ideas of how our entire country is. If they see an anti bush ad they are going to believe our entire country hates him and we were ALL against the war. Thats bullshit. That is eliminating the voice of half of our population. You hate the guy, good for you, but half of our country doesnt, what about them. By airing this thing it shows that our entire country hates the man, which isnt true. On the other hand, by not showing it, it says nothing and leaves the politics out of a sporting event

Are you fine with half of the country's opinion being ignored as long as yours is showed? And please dont be a smart ass and point out the election, that is just how our system works

And, like i said, by airing said ad it does insinuate that it is the consensus of the entire nation. So when the soldiers around the world watch the Super Bowl they will be thinking no one is for OUR leader and they are dieing in vain

David85

01-24-2004, 06:32 PM

By not showing it it says a lot. I hate both beer and cheerleaders and they still show those ads. What about the majority of the people in the USA that don't like either one of them? You're eliminating more than half the population!

*Note 52% of the country is born female, 48% born male.
** I'm for the war.

Boondock Saint

01-24-2004, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by Wh|tE gUy
And, like i said, by airing said ad it does insinuate that it is the consensus of the entire nation. So when the soldiers around the world watch the Super Bowl they will be thinking no one is for OUR leader and they are dieing in vain

yeah, b/c no one knows that network television SELLS ad space for MONEY, rather than the channels/citizens putting on whatever they want to...really good argument there.

besides, it has a little thing at the end, maybe you've noticed it..."PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG". yeah, that's not enough of a disclaimer for people to know it's from a certain group.

David85

01-24-2004, 07:24 PM

Maybe the site should go by what it says.... "move on".

Wh|tE gUy

01-24-2004, 07:52 PM

Regarless of how accurate it is to say people would jump to said conclusions, if i see a commercial from another country it will have some sort of impression on my conseption of that country and its culture/society.

Professor Go

01-24-2004, 10:52 PM

I guess we can all agree to disagree that it's ok to pretend that everything's A-OK and that Superbowl watchers are drooling slack-jawed morons who can't tell a political ad from an official nation-wide 30-second concensus that George Bush sucks.

GOD I HATE AMERICA!

And love it :( Why do we suck so muchhhhhhhhhh *cry*

MoN

01-24-2004, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by David85
*Buys ticket to the UK* Australia is a better place. UK? haha...k

American government sucks, yet this place we live in is better than almost all other countries, and we have the most freedom, and at that same time we have little freedom, if you get me.

EDIT: Football (American football) is better than politics. Politics are for lying, cheating thieves. YEAH!!!22347bgf

Wh|tE gUy

01-24-2004, 11:04 PM

We dont suck any more than any other country though. We are just the harshest critics of our nation

Professor Go

01-25-2004, 12:23 AM

Except for when you want to criticize during the Superbowl.

Wh|tE gUy

01-25-2004, 12:25 AM

Damn straight. Im sorry but i dont see how that is any better that airing an anti-bush marathon on the 4th of July.

David85

01-25-2004, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by MoN
Australia is a better place.

You're right all the guys down there are hot and gay.

*Buys a new ticket*
AUSSIES HERE I COME! :)

Professor Go

01-25-2004, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by Wh|tE gUy
Damn straight. Im sorry but i dont see how that is any better that airing an anti-bush marathon on the 4th of July.

:rolleyes:

Boondock Saint

01-25-2004, 08:45 AM

yeah...bush is synonomous with with fourth of july, so we all have to respect him on that day. it's like saying that 9/11 is a holy day now and that we all must sit in front of the tv in awe of the time the great uniter helped our nation through it's biggest trial. but seriously, why does it have to be better? what the HELL does that have to do with whether or not an organization wants to pay $3 million to have a commercial on the super bowl? i think that you're just making things up to make yourself look like not a moron, white guy. you know what i wish was better? people's outlook on things. instead of jackasses like you going, 'the democrats aren't any better than bush, so i'm gonna vote for bush because i guess i like the guy' we need more people going, 'you know what? bush is an idiot. not only is he an idiot, but the things that he's done good for the country are minimal. i know i'm a republican, but even i can see the error of my own ways.' see, this thing isn't an anti-republican thing, it's not even really an anti-bush thing...it's a "hey, we're tired of our economy/internat'l relations/the war/veterans rights/etc." sucking type thing. i mean, if you don't notice how things are completely worse right now, in a republican and a democrat sense, then you're not putting much thought into it. even john mccain says the president's f*cking up on the goddam daily show, and then says that he's going to support him for re-election. jesus christ! and he's a really good guy. i wish he'd WON against bush, i'd vote for him. do you know why? b/c he knows what "policy" even means. b/c he might know how to do SOMETHING/ANYTHING that even remotely deals with international relations. you know my main gripe with bush's international policy? there isn't one! that's the problem with it. maybe he should've done some travelling before he became president (you know, like to...anywhere at all) and maybe he could've seen that we live in a world where the US isn't the only country. but no...he didn't. regardless, why does any of that have to do with whether or not an advertisement, political or not, can be shown during the goddam super bowl? it's f*cking TELEVISION! if people put that much stock into tv, then we're f*cked anyway.

Santo

01-25-2004, 10:32 AM

Good post Boondock. Personally I think we need to state exactly why we have certain views and back it up with cold hard facts. Simply saying "the war sucks" okay, you think the war sucks. But WHY? And not only why does it suck, but try to think from the opposite point of view (the republicans). A good argument is only one that examines both ends of the spectrum.

Shoxx

01-25-2004, 10:39 AM

I voted Kerry. It seems like he'd be the best choice. Rev. Sharpton would be alright for a candidate, but, he'd need to work a lot on his political skills. Kinda like Arnold did.

And I think Kerry has a good chance of beating Bush this time around, too. Let us hope Lieberman doesn't get it, because if he wins the election, we might as well say goodbye to M rated videogames.

Santo

01-25-2004, 11:04 AM

Lieberman is probably going to drop out soon, he got a big 0% from Iowa, that's a big no no.

Boondock Saint

01-25-2004, 11:12 AM

he didn't even run in iowa...just like clark. see, they don't even care what some states think about them. morons.

Professor Go

01-25-2004, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Boondock Saint it's f*cking TELEVISION! if people put that much stock into tv, then we're f*cked anyway.

Man Boon, you always say what I'm thinking but my limited ability to use words in understandable sentences never allows me to type. *thumbs up*

It's going to be Clark vs. Kerry and personally I think if either one wins I will be a happy camper.

Shoxx

01-25-2004, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Santo
Lieberman is probably going to drop out soon, he got a big 0% from Iowa, that's a big no no.

Very good. He gets very annoying going after the videogame business.

Santo

01-25-2004, 04:04 PM

I was under the impression he was in Iowa. But eitherway, he's still gonna drop out soon, he's a smart man but definitely not fit to be president.

Wh|tE gUy

01-25-2004, 06:00 PM

I dont hate Bush. i have NEVER said i like the man, all i have done is said i dont disagree with everything hes done. I guess if im not a bush-basher i am automatically a war mongaring republican. Alright. Atleast i am capable of taking alternative views. Atleast I havent been sitting, waiting patiently to jump on bush the instant he made a mistake ever since his election. I am not one of those people who have held some sort of self-righteous agenda since inauguration. It seems like I am in the minority when i can accept when he makes a mistake as well as when he does well.

David85

01-25-2004, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Boondock Saint
he didn't even run in iowa...just like clark. see, they don't even care what some states think about them. morons.

Would you really give a damn what people in Iowa think?

Wh|tE gUy

01-25-2004, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by David85
Would you really give a damn what people in Iowa think?
Hey! Dont take Iowa for granted! Once the Armageddon arives, corn will become the new currency. Kind of like how pez dispensers would have become the new form of money if that Y2k thing wasnt a hoax

Professor Go

01-25-2004, 06:38 PM

White Guy I don't think you're a warmongering anything, but I do think your idea that we shouldn't broadcast anti-politician advertisements during one of the most watched tv shows in the world simply because it would "make us look bad" is amazingly silly.

I can give Bush credit when he does right - I was surprised when he raised the budget to fight AIDS here and in 3rd world countries.. and then I was disgusted when the funds seem to have not gone through and suddenly it's not a priority. Then I was glad to see he was taking an interest in education with his "Leave no Child Behind" theme.. and then I saw that schools won't be able to afford the changes, leaving teachers without jobs and schools closing because they don't have the financial means to live up to Bush's standards.

It's like he goes out of his way to piss people off.. drilling in wildlife reserves?? Making gay marriage illegal forever? Holy shit, it's like this man has totally lost any compromise when dealing with his liberal political counterparts..

Eh... I guess he just pisses me off and I don't see any reason why the ad shouldn't run. Or how such a moron could be president.

andre

01-25-2004, 07:33 PM

yeah, kerry looks promising, but i was hoping for gephardt.

David85

01-25-2004, 07:45 PM

If Kerry wins you will be surprised how much you will miss Bush.

Santo

01-25-2004, 08:20 PM

Whoa, that's a bold statement.

Professor Go

01-25-2004, 08:35 PM

I doubt there is any way that could possibly ever be true.

Boondock Saint

01-25-2004, 09:21 PM

there would never be any truth in that. the only way i'd miss bush is if that asshole jerry falwell was president...and that'd never happen.

Professor Go

01-25-2004, 09:26 PM

*shivers* *pukes* *shivers* *pukes on Pat Robertson* *shivers*

Boondock Saint

01-25-2004, 09:33 PM

well, that was the worst possible candidate for me wanting bush...actually, i'd probably still not want bush, but be willing to put up with him again...

...nah. i'd just REALLY fucking hate falwell, which is a lot considering how much i REALLY hate bush's shite.

David85

01-25-2004, 09:47 PM

Who's the only one here that lives in Mass, and know a lot more about him then anyone else on these boards? That's right me.

Professor Go

01-25-2004, 10:07 PM

I don't trust you.

Wh|tE gUy

01-25-2004, 10:09 PM

My voting order

Edwards
Clark
Dean
Leiberman
Bush

Im sorry, but i just dont trust Kerry. He just looks too weird

David85

01-25-2004, 10:09 PM

You really sould trust me more than anyone running for president.

Professor Go

01-25-2004, 11:55 PM

He does look like he got hit in the face with a frying pan don't he?

Wh|tE gUy

01-26-2004, 12:30 AM

I seriously cannot picture him with his eyes open for some reason. I just see him squinting under those huge eyebrows of his. Plus, he's skrawny. Very superficial i suppose, but a strong leader must stimulate the subconscience

prime_timer

01-26-2004, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by Professor Go
White Guy I don't think you're a warmongering anything, but I do think your idea that we shouldn't broadcast anti-politician advertisements during one of the most watched tv shows in the world simply because it would "make us look bad" is amazingly silly.

whats silly about it? most people already know that Bush is an idiot. Now we want to go and make a commercial admitting that we're idiots. that makes no sense. like when your accused of stealing the last pork chop do you say "it wasnt me! it was aaunt zelda!" or "yes i took the pork chop."? you cover your ass until the bad stuff ends.

Boondock Saint

01-26-2004, 09:34 AM

prime timer, before you want to talk about things that make no sense, take a look at your argument. first, in order for your argument to be true, there has to be a 100% concensus of americans that bush is wrong, which there isn't. second, it doesn't matter, b/c it's a f*cking television commercial...is anyone else not getting this? networks SELL space...the people who made the commercial want to PAY for it. they're not hijacking the ad time or anything...isn't it the PUBLIC airwaves? meaning that ANYTHING the PUBLIC has to say should be allowed to air on it?

i don't know...maybe i'm just too logical to get bogged down in patriotism and all this other shit.